[eyewoo]

Not just landscapes...



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fleab...

[Anthony]

Frickin' weird style, executed great! The anatomy looks mostly on, maybe around her face she could use a little work. For instance, her hair line looks low and maybe the neck a little thick. Nice job, I'd like to ask what the concept behind the style is.

[J-D Leon]

another great sTYLE.

i like it. Art field need some people like you, becuase we can just draw similar thing forever.

new ideas are wanntted soo badly.

one little commond though, her left arm look flat, give it some more strokes. and i like to have the full size picture. would you send it to me. to [email protected]

thanks. i like to collect those pic

[Poprocksz]

Like the style some...if it wasn't an accident....
the left arm is flat...but its to damn short too...

and what throws off the face is the eyes...too bigg....good shiz yo

[cybertoker2001]

Her torso is too long.

Other than that, good stuff.

Take it easy,
CT2001

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[avaj]

Wicked style and a really nice mood!
I should tilt her head a bit more backwards though, and her left hand looks a tad too small.

Excellent!

[eyewoo]

Here's the original reference photo for the piece. With the curtains billowing out, I felt that the lighting needed to be even across the torso.

[DarkEyes]

it's ok, I think the flat light across her body doesn't look right though, and even tho its a style ... I think all those lines on her body look too much like hair .. like she is going to turn werewolf. Sorry if I couldnt' say something nicer about it.

[eyewoo]

Thanks for the comments and critiques... They've been really helpful. I've made a lot of changes to the image since I first posted it, many as a result of comments about it. Thanks again.

fleab...

[Seraphire]

Well, I don't mean to be an ass. But I don't like the style. It's awfully unnatural. If you want impressionism, great, but is that what you're doing?

[eyewoo]

Seraphire...

Impressionism... No, not at all. I'm experimenting. It's so incredible to me that a (Photoshop) brush can so easily pick up a color from anywhere in an image and then use it... pick up another color, use it... pick up another, use it... and so forth. There's a facility that is quite extraordinary and I'm just beginning to fool around with it. Not really sure where it's going... But, impressionism in the traditional sense -- probably not. Using the computer for something other than smoothed feathered effects... yes! That's the direction I'm exploring.

fleab...

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[Breakerboy2]

I really appreciate the exploration you're doing. After looking at so much photoshop art for the last 10+ years, I know I got tired of a lot of the "might-as-well-have-been-airbrushed" stuff a long time ago. I know my own preconceptions of what digital art could be kept me from even trying for a long time.

All this talk about impressionism brings up a good point, though. I think you could really use some bolder colors worked in here and there to really give this piece some vibrance. Right now, each area is kind of monochromatic unto itself. You did such a great job with the color on the Waning Night piece, and that's the kind of color interplay that this piece is missing at the moment.

Just a thought. Take it or leave it.

[Breakerboy2]

Hi fleab.

Now I definitely think you should look up Paul Cadmus' drawings/paintings. He uses contour hatch-like marks as well.

This has a lot of really nice qualities to it. I have a few suggestions, though:

With this kind of approach, I'd recommend you stay very strict about things like the bottom of the curtain where it looks like strands of straw. Keeping that shape as clean as possible might help de-emphasize the hatching from looking like hair. Her right leg (nearest the window) doesn't fall back into perspective quite right. It feels like it sits above her left leg.

In changing the lighting across her body from the photo, you lost that really nice silhouette of her torso's edge. That flattened her out a bit and removed a really strong shape from your composition. I think a little stronger reflected light in your shadows on the figure will help give her little more dimension, too.

Is the back wall behind her hand too dark in value? With all the fill light filtering in through the window, it would be nice to see that back corner haze out a bit.

The table edge in the photo is a really nice compositional element. With it gone, there's nothing to redirect our eye from following the line between her legs to the lower left corner and off the page. The table also puts her into a better defined space (depth) in the room, but this might not be your intent.

Hope this helps!

It's uncanny how certain areas of this image feel just like scratchboard.

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[c]

when i first saw the pic, first thought across my mind was, damn, she's pretty frikkin hairy.

i think it's because the lines that u use for the contours are light instead of dark, u know?

though i wonder if she'd look even hairier if it were the other way around.

otherwise a neat painting/style.

oh wait, almost forgot to mention.

when drawing figure from photos, it's easy to miss a lof of the important 'landmarks' in figure drawing. for skinny folk, that includes faint impressions of the ribcage and the protrusions from the front of the pelvis (anterior iliac spine or something). which is another reason she looks hairy. without pointing out those kind of features, it looks like she's coated with fur because it's one smooth contour.

the reference image is very faint and you can barely notice the stuff i'm talking about but it's there. so when working with photos you have to be really careful because it's easy to miss a lot of detail.

maybe all my hairtalk is my brain subconciously telling me that i need a haircut.

yea... i think that's it.

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[eyewoo]

C

>> maybe all my hairtalk is my brain subconciously telling me that i need a haircut

hahahaha... well, maybe so... I printed the image out and am also a bit bothered by the "hairy" look. I'm not quite sure how I feel about it at the moment. From a distance, hanging on a wall one wouldn't necessarily notice the "hairy" texture... but these images are probably more likely to be prints which are viewed close up... The style does work much better with landscapes - perhaps figures with clothing, but a torso does not seem to be the best object to lay all those random-like lines on. hmmm... think I'm going to try another one though...

fleab...

[Breakerboy2]

Perhaps treating more like an etching would resolve the "hairy" aspect? - (Shorter strokes that follow the contours a little more closely)

[eyewoo]

Michael,

Yes, I think that would work, but I'm just not into doing that. The final results can be stunning, but the process has little appeal for me. I like a more spontaneous, building approach... I'm mulling over some ideas. I think I'm going to try another one of a woman, but with more clothing drapped about her...

fleab...