[rbfigueira]

I am trying to make the Enayla "Lip tutorial" :O)
http://www.sijun.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=003138

My picture:



I use the drawing (step 1) of Enayla lip tutorial to try to make what she does but...
I am trying to do what she do (hehehehee, I WHAT TO LEARN...sorry... hehehehe).... but....
I am in step 6 and.... brrrrrrr, for me my picture are BAD !!
I am loosing the lip(red) because the highlights are more white that rose .... on the face the shadows are more black than what i want.... i want brown shadows not too dark,
i use the dodge and burn tool to do the shadows and the highlights but.... the highlights are not
very bad but the shadows ..... brrrrrrr....are more BLACK !!!! I dont want black shadows, i want brown shadows ! I think that my shadows are more Black , what you guys think ? See the step 6 of Enayla "Lip tutorial"... she has a GOOD soft shadows ...

How to do the shadows/midtones/ highlights without loosing the principal (brown) color ?
Enayla, how you do that ?

I am trying to do your tutorial, but I have some difficulties.... Can you help me ? :O)

How you do the highlights and the shadows (step 3, 4 and step 5) on the face ? Which tools you use and the pressure on it ? The near I can get is with the dodge and burn tool, but I can't make that soft shadow and highlights. Yours shadows are very soft ... how can I do that ?

Can you share how you do that kind of soft shadows/midtones/ highlights in your pictures?

I think that all guys here will appreciate your technical explanation

And you guys, how you guys do ?

Thanks for all help and sorry all this questions :O)

RBFIGUEIRA

[ August 02, 2001: Message edited by: rbfigueira ]

[rbfigueira]

Ups...
I think that I have put my post on wrong subject(forum)... i think that the correct are "Digital Art Discussion"

Sorry guys...

RBFIGUEIRA

[ August 02, 2001: Message edited by: rbfigueira ]

[Radiater]

Hey RB,

I think your getting there. Just one suggestion - the grooves in the lip and the highlights seem too random (can't think of a better word), and the contrasts are just a little too stark. It makes the lips appear chapped.

Radiater.

[rbfigueira]

Yes, friend, you are quite right !!

I am trying to do the lip texture with the dodge and burn tool, but this tool are giving me the highlights to white and the shadows to dark. Perhaps this tool (dodge and burn) are the key to do it but I am doing all wrong. In the tutorial, the lips highlights are soft rose/red ... I am trying to get that colors with (dodge and burn tool) but .... Brrrrrrrrr.

Any tip ?

Thanks,

Ricardo Figueira
(RBFIGUEIRA)

[ August 03, 2001: Message edited by: rbfigueira ]

[Enayla]

Well, I'd advice you to use more of your own chosen colours, and less of the dodge/burn ones. They might seem easier to begin with but they'll limit you.

It might also be more interesting, for you, to not try to copy the tutorial completely... but instead use it to create some work of your own.

[rbfigueira]

Hey… I understand your point of view and I have the same opinion but I am trying to define which tools and the pressure on it to do another pictures. I think that if I tried to “copy” the steps of your tutorial it would be more ease to me.

Note: I am not trying to steel anything, I am trying to know how to do the same thinks correctly, to do my stuff :O) That is the reason of trying to copy the tutorial completely… I am trying to learn how to do that kind of stuff..

I have a wacom table but I don’t have many experience to do digital painting…. I am in beginning …. I am trying to capture the essential steps to do my colour stuff :O) If you have some tips that you want to share, please share :O) I will appreciate a lot.

I use the dodge/burn tool, because was the more approximated tool to do the shadows / highlights of your picture. I have tried to do with the airbrush but the result were BAD…. Perhaps I don’t know how to use correctly the tool…

Thanks

RBFIGUEIRA

[ August 03, 2001: Message edited by: rbfigueira ]

[Enayla]

Hey, I don't think you're stealing anything =) I guess if it's good practice for you, go right ahead - I just thought it might be more of a learning experience if you tried something on your own (but hey, we're all different)

As for dodge/burn... try setting your airbrush on multiply or screen instead. Might work better.

[rbfigueira]

Hye… good tip (multiply for shadows and screen to highlights) :O)

When you do your shadows / midtones / highlights on your own pictures you use more the airbrush ?
You use only the dodge/burn tool for the big highlights and for (darker points of shadows ) ? Is that it ?
Have you got any rule ?

Thanks,

RBFIGUEIRA

[rbfigueira]

What you guys think know ?
Give me your opinion....

Here are my finish image....




Thanks,

RBFIGUEIRA

[Andromeda]

I think its nice.
ive tried all the excercises on sijun,
(yes even the 500 drawing one, and even tried BobO's method, altho i've my own style. cos its always good to try out new things)

but i havent tried out enayla's ....
enayla's work puts the fear of god in me.
hail to you RB for attemting this one.

[rbfigueira]

Thanks friend.
Enayla works are amazing , and are very dificulty to do it !!

But what can i say.... i have tried to do my best :O)

Best regards,
RBFIGUEIRA

[Anthony]

A good drill for you will be to use hard paint brushes in Photoshop, no opacity settings at all. Choose your colors very carefully, don't be afraid of bright brights and dark darks. Don't use the dodge/burn tools at all. Just use your picked colors. This will teach you to understand what actual colors work, instead of eyeballing the shading. Once you know how to control the colors well, you'll find that you actually like the control it brings, and you'd hate to lose that control. Nice work, keep at it.

[rbfigueira]

Ok Friend, but which tool you advice me to use ... Airbrush or Paintbrush to do that ?

Can you give me an simple example ?

Thanks,

RBFIGUEIRA