Sijun Forums :: View topic - Dragon..or Serpent Painting.. w/ before and after

Littlepoop77 · Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2001 9:03 pm

This fantasy piece was done in photoshop. I was trying to prove to myself that I could paint something other than scifi.

Here are the things I was tr ying to achieve with this one...
Scene takes place during the day...very humid, jungle-like.

I hope I got it right.
Please feel free to critique it.

I used a hard edged brush this time

Before

After

RoadMaster · Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2001 9:20 pm

where did all that detail come from? no one knows!

Uhh, just wondering but what happened to the other side of his head? shouldn't you see those spike things from the other side as well going out the back?

Roy Batty · junior member Member # Joined: 23 Jun 2001 Posts: 15

Second pic looks great. I had a little trouble figuring out the size of the dragon since its hard to see if he is showing up behind the bushes/trees in the foreground or from the fog in between mountain walls, but i guess its just that huge judging from the size of the birds.
Love the detail especially the skin on the dragons neck.

Littlepoop77 · Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2001 9:26 pm

Oh SHIT...thanks for reminding me...I almost forgot...I'll add them.

THe detail magically appeared. kidding...the one on top is the first rough color comp...

burn0ut · Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2001 9:44 pm

Oh man is that good! i wanna see more!!!!

dr . bang · Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2001 10:16 pm

Poop, youre a pure art genius!

Littlepoop77 · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2001 12:19 am

I'm not a genius...If I were, I'd be a gazillionaire by now

I'm going to paint the spikes on the other side of his head, and make the right mountain overlap the serpent more...so that its obvious that the mountain(our right) is in front of it.

Collosimo · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2001 12:31 am

Hey nice.

So was the first one just a colour proof? or did you change and refine the detail in it? I'd love to see some in progress if you got any?

Menace · junior member Member # Joined: 25 May 2001 Posts: 17

very nice, I much prefer the hard edged work, soo much detail in the foreground and backgorund, maybe more fantasy there?
Just a suggestion

beauty

Littlepoop77 · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2001 6:47 am

Collosimo: I didn't do the changes yet. I fell a sleep...

WIll work on it soon.

pixtur · member Member # Joined: 28 Sep 2000 Posts: 93

Great. I wish I could paint something like this.

My only critique is the perspectiv at the lower border. It looks somehow strange. Maybe there should be more of those palm-trees close to the edge?

I really dig the castle at the background. Would you mind, drawing a close-up? I want to see more of it!

tom

Binke · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2001 9:59 am

neat-o! I like in-progress pics, they are very educational. Is this the original resolution? Or is it shrinked down?

Littlepoop77 · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2001 11:22 pm

this is not the original resolution...the original is much bigger.

here's a close up of the castle.

I'm going to be adding more details to this piece during the week..
more trees on the bottom....and other stuff. Please keep suggesting...the feedback I'm receiving is really good.

Littlepoop77 · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 2:23 pm

I added the close-up of the city incase some of you didn't have time to check it out.
Should I add more detail?

NullTygre · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 2:35 pm

Battlements would look real good and maybe a few more bridges between the towers?

Cicinimo · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 3:21 pm

eyewoo · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 4:11 pm

Nice work... I love seeing how stuff develops from initial sketching to final image... especially when it's all done on computer.

fleabrain...

Snake Grunger · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 4:27 pm

See? Hard edges are an artist's friends!

Gryphon · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 4:57 pm

This is really nice work - the dragon's head is phenomenal.

My tiny bit of crit would be this: add a little more blue to the more distant moss. It'll increase the depth... Also, you might want to have the glow in his eye get brighter in the middle. If it's supposed to be very bright (since it's neon, I'm assuming so) maybe it should also have a little light hitting his eye ridge?

Anyway, I love the detail and texturing you put into him, especially with his head fins - great job!

YAZ · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 8:04 pm

Very cool work 'poop. One day you will grow to be a big poop just like me.

Ohhh, i'm just kidding as usual. Keep it real dawg.

Hippie · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 8:13 pm

Littlepoop, this looks awesome.
I love the detail in the second one, and can't wait until you modify some more.

I have one question, approximately how long did this take from the first pic to the second. I only ask cuz I feel like I'm taking too long do finish my own work and would like to know some times froms others that I admire.

Hope to see this one complete soon, keep on keepin on.

Shaded · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 8:49 pm

The idea, the execution, simply astounding. Keep it right up!

Littlepoop77 · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 10:15 pm

hippie: It took me 2 weekends...so basically 4 days....
I take my time since there is no deadline for personal work

Freddio · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 10:21 pm

wow..

I like it alot nice work..

great detail..

the birds add a nice touch

waylon · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 10:31 pm

Hi. Couple little things. First, you could probably do a lot more with atmospheric perspective. That's probably why your two mountains and the serpent all appear to be on the same plane - they all have the same level of contrast. Try adding a little more haze between us and the serpent, and even a little more between us and the mountain on the left, and I think the depth will read a lot better.

The other thing... it doesn't look like this serpent has a body. Just a neck, sticking up from nowhere. It might be good to suggest an even greater widening of the neck at the base to suggest a body (if this is a dragon-like creature), or some more coils in the distance if it's supposed to be more snake-like. Not a big deal, though. Looks great!

waylon · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 10:47 pm

Eh, I couldn't resist. I hope you don't mind.

I chopped everything up into different layers, then played with the levels to give things in the distance less contrast, and things in the foreground more. I'm not sure how much farther back you meant the left mountain to be... I think I pushed it a little too far, since the details are at about the same scale as those in the mountain on the right. But whatever. I hope this helps. Really cool picture.

Littlepoop77 · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 11:30 pm

ok here's modification 1.0
-Added Spike on the other side of the dragon's head(its right)
-added a subtle highlight on the ridge of his eyes
-Added a bit more blue to the left mountain
-overlapped the right mountain over the Serpent to make it more obvious that the mountain is in front.
-Added more foreground trees.

Waylon...yup the left mountain is pushed back a little too much.
I wanted to make the mountains fairly close to each other so that the serpent would look enormous...sorta claustrophobic.

anyway here it is.

Littlepoop77 · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2001 11:58 pm

Waylon: Did you happen to go to the E3, the one that just passed, by any chance?

waylon · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2001 1:09 am

I like the new version. The changes you made were subtle, but they work very well.

And yeah, I was at E3. Why?

Gordillo · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2001 3:07 am

Your pic rocks!! No crits