[xXxPZxXx]

Figured this would make for a nice random musing.

All you out there that have taken the ACT what did you get?

I wonder if there is a correlation between artists and their ACT scores. (ok thats bullshit, I just want to see where I fit in) I will be getting my scores back in the next couple days. ::crosses fingers::

And do art schools really take your ACT scores or GPA into account? Like SCAD or Sheridan? What are your experiences?

[jr]

didn't take act, took sat's did pretty well, funny though, the school i go to didn't even need them. good thing i didn't study.

[Ben Barker]

Since I just went through the SCAD application process, I can give you the lowdown on that.

It seems like they had pretty low standards for ACT/SAT, but being an art school that was to be expected. I think the average ACT was like 27 or something like that. I had pretty good scores and grades from my previous schools, I guess, and they said I could probably get a scholarship there. I was 31 ACT, 1350 SAT, and 3.2 GPA.

Alternatively, there was a portfolio scholarship you could get for awesome artwork.
There was also a bigger scholarship you could get for awesome artwork and good grades. So three scholarships total, but you can only accept one, for a maximum of $7500 something or other per year.

In the end I got accepted, but I haven't forked over the matriculation fee or submitted my portfolio yet, since it will be at least a year until I can afford it. It seems like getting good test scores isn't necessary, and is getting less so every day, but it helps.

If you have any specific questions about SCAD post them here or email me. I have a huge binder full of SCAD info, and I just went down and visited, and asked people there a lot of the questions you probably have.

[ January 03, 2002: Message edited by: Ben Barker ]

[Red Leader]

Many of my artist friends are in the (IQ)130's or 40's... a lot of these tests rely heavily on pattern recognition, which seems to be a nach for artists.

[edit: removed my score]

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[Red Leader]

haha. Scores mean nothing though, as you can see from my double post.

:P

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[xXxPZxXx]

Thanks a ton for the info Ben! If I got what you said right, you were accepted Without a portfolio? My plan right now is to spend a year working for money AND working on a portfolio before I apply. That must be a nice feeling being accepted. I just worry about the cost of it being worth it. In your tour/other experiences does SCAD seem like a good choice money wise?

And Red Leader: That is a damn nice IQ! I think I would do better on that than the ACT. I have always been better at "which one of these pictures comes next" and "orange is to apple as tree is to ___?" rather than "find the hypotenuse of this bilinear matrice by using a billion different equations" ya know?

[wigin]

I hope you knew that Sheridan College is in Cananda?? I got there BTW. But yeah if your worried about money come and study in canada to a school equivilant to ccs or scad or whatever art school there is in the USA... Even as an interenational studen it will cost you like 10 times less.. HAHA i mean its probably going to cost you like maybe 10 000$ Canadian soo like 6500$ American or whatever the conversion is. I think thats pretty good considering that US art schools are like what 10 000$ US a semestre for ONLY tuition fee's ( correct me if im wrong)

[wigin]

oh and BTW in Canada we dont have SAT's or any test like that.. I think the only test you get before going in college or university is well a english test and thats it or french test depending if your school is french... Which i didnt need to take because my make in english was better than the expect to have for college i guess..

Hmmm basically to get into sheridan you need to have a minimum mark or like 70% in english and some art classes... But you need to show a portfolio.. Soo if you have the marks than thats one step ... now you just need to be good enough to get in and thats the HARD step REALLY hard step... also this depends on which program you want to get into...

[xXxPZxXx]

I am not really looking at sheridan, I just threw it out there because I have heard that it is a very good school. And yeah I knew it was in Canada but I didn't know that canadian schools didn't look at ACT or SAT scores.

Canada is cheaper than all heck too. you had the figures right. 20 some thousand a year for just tuition at SCAD. Kinda sad...

[Jabberwocky]

I don't remember what I got on my ACT's (like 26 - 29 something like that... wasn't bad for only taking them once). I got high enough to get a few scholarships from some colleges (didn't use). I don't even remember what I got on my PSAT's.

Took those AP test... those you take and get out of college credit hours... got a 3 on AP Bio (not bad for no chem) and 3 on AP History. I don't remember what I scored on the AP English one.


My graduating GPA was 3.8. I was an "A - B" student throughout high school.

[ January 04, 2002: Message edited by: Jabberwocky ]

[balistic]

I got 29 on my ACT. Perfect scores in english and science, awful scores in math.

My IQ is high enough that I have very little faith in the accuracy of IQ testing . . . I think genius ought to be measured in accomplishments, not potential.

[Red Leader]

Balistic: I agree IQ tests seem to be full of crap.

My IQ seems high for someone who just colors comic books. Maybe I should go find a cure for cancer or something, or build an offshore "Bond villain" base.... Grow into my IQ as it were.

:P

...Perhaps HiQers are drawn to art because it allows their minds to explore through shape and form? Hrmmmm.

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[xXxPZxXx]

That is a good point to make. I know when I tell people that I would like to pursue art they see it as a waste of time or talent. But people like Leonardo Da Vinci who is perhaps the greatest genius of all time spent his whole life pursuing art.

Maybe the greatest test of genius is artistic aptitude? The "real" way of seeing the world and recreating it with tools.

[wildgrey]

I got a 32 on the ACT, despite getting a 22 on the math part (I got 35s in everything else). I'm hoping it'll get me some sort of scholarship, somewhere, since my parents won't pay for art school...

[edible snowman]

i got a 32 last year but i'm probably going to take it again. the english section kind of dragged me down a little. if someone's writing checks for this it would be cool.

[Ben Barker]

xXxPZxXx, SCAD was absolutely beautiful. I can totally see where the money goes. The campus classrooms are in all these old, restored buildings in the historic district of Savannah. Their drawing studios where a lot better than the ones at the University of Cincinnati, where I wasted a year of my life. Instead of unsteady, scratched tables, not enough stools, and pathetic lighting, there were tons of individual drafting tables in carpeted rooms. It was a completely different experience.
I got accepted without a portfolio, but a portfolio review is required for certain credits to transfer. One of the profs there took a look at my stuff and said there shouldn't be a problem. I just had the regular fundamentals in there: cubes, cylinders, figures, adding machine ribbons, and some random character drawings and stuff from high school. He seemed really relieved that I didn't have any Wolverines and Supermans in my portfolio, since apparently he sees crap like that all day long. I don't believe a portfolio is required for undergraduate admission unless your grades really suck. But they open up the possibility of a portfolio scholarship, and like I said, are required for transfer credits.

The best advice I can give you is to make absolutely sure you want to spend 4-5 years at a college before you go. A college is like a new pair of shoes. There might be some uncomfortable spots when you first try them on. If you ignore them and buy the shoes anyway, it will just get worse and worse, and will wear on you until your feet are just like bloody stumps of fire. If I could describe my experience at UC with just four words, it would be "bloody stumps of fire". Choose wisely.

[Gryphon]

I get the "wasting your life" from quite a few people too... *sigh*

Test scores:

SAT: 1510
ACT: 31
IQ: 140

GPA: 3.98

Art schools seem to really not care much about test scores - they're more interested in your GPA. RSAD doesn't even require students to take standardized tests...

[Anthony]

I wasn't much of an academic...

ACT: 33
SAT: 1490
IQ: 156
GPA: 3.6
Weighted: 4.4

My brother got perfect on the ACT and SAT, he loves school stuff.

[bld]

ACT: 32

IQ: 168

Never took SAT's college's in my area don't require them.

I think alot of places are realizing scores on these tests mean shit.

A test like the SAT or ACT determines jack on your IQ, it determines what you know, not your ability to solve and dissect situations and problems, which is where real genius is determined.

Hell even communism looked good on paper, and that didn't work.