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klaivu
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2001 9:18 am     Reply with quote


The title : " Se on kovaa peli� kun herroja tehd��n " - something my grandpa never forgets to mention every time we go to see him.
I'm off to buy some candy.

Edit : and hey, crits would be more than appreciated - theres something not quite right about this image that I can't figure out.

[ May 22, 2001: Message edited by: klaivu ]
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Frost
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2001 9:23 am     Reply with quote
I like this a lot Klaivu.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2001 9:50 am     Reply with quote
Great pic, Klaivu, i love the expression on the main figure. the only thing that is possibly "not quite right" is the position of the kid on the left.. feels uncomfortable this close to the edge of the image.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2001 10:08 am     Reply with quote
hehe, the background and the birds reminded me of that guinness ad with the toucans.. hmmm... making me thirsty.
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2001 10:16 am     Reply with quote
very nice picture. i like the style.
but all your chracters are quite a little scary. e.g. this little kids look like noisy and unpolite bastards
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2001 1:07 pm     Reply with quote
Heh, kovaa peli�h�n se. Hieno tulkinta. Looks great. Crits: The neck and the neckline area of the big bird looks somehow unfinished compared to the rest of the pic. Maybe there should be some noticeable fluffiness, feather silhuette, against the red coat in the neck area. I agree with Bilbo on the leftmost kid too.

-Ville
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Binke
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2001 1:29 pm     Reply with quote
Wow,thats really nice Klaivu. I really dig this. Post more!
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2001 2:20 pm     Reply with quote
maybe if you tried overlapping the third stork (?) over the rest of them it would be a more engaging design?
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2001 2:48 pm     Reply with quote
This reminds me of the old Duck Tales cartoon- Scrooge McDuck and his nephews Huey, Louie, and Dewey. Though those aren't ducks. Great work!
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2001 8:22 pm     Reply with quote
Cool! it has a very nice feeling about it=)

Damn,you keep on getting better and better, keep 'em coming=)
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2001 8:53 pm     Reply with quote
lol, yeah it reminded me of Ducktales right away, I love this image though, I agree about that 1st stork being too much to the left far from the other dorks...er...storks
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2001 11:23 pm     Reply with quote
HA! Cool...Love the little bratty ducklings.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2001 2:36 am     Reply with quote
What can I say. I think that picture is just a classic.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2001 2:51 am     Reply with quote
I think this looks really nice, klaivu.

I have a couple of ideas on what maybe bothering you.

The background is very foggy and diffuse, but the lighting on the characters is from a point source.

The contrast ratio of the feathers is very large. The local value of the feathers is very light, so it will be the lightest in light and in shadow. So the beak shadow value is nice and light, as it should with the reflected light from the feathers, but the shadow area of the feathers goes black. Add to this the diffuse light (meaning that the light is coming from all around as it is being diffused through the fog) and I think the feather shadow is way too dark. And when you lighten it up, you can place with color bounce as well.

You might want to lighten up the red vest of grandpa just a little to get the foreground ducks to separate a little

Just some ideas…
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2001 6:29 am     Reply with quote
very good klaivu !
-sorry if that was a boring comment
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2001 9:25 am     Reply with quote
hehe..
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2001 9:34 am     Reply with quote
Terrific Work. Awesome picture for real. Is my voice now muted against the wave of acclamation? Oh well I love style. Excellent.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2001 2:27 pm     Reply with quote
Frost :
Sacrelicious : Well, it's a rich capitalist duck, isn't it ?


Thank you for the comments everyone !

I'll fix the neck + composition + values tomorrow - too confused and tired right now to understand text or draw ( I had to read spooges comment three times before i could understand it .. :/ )
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2001 10:53 pm     Reply with quote
terrific work, man. love it a lot

i think the BG looks too detached and seperated from the figures. that's the only thing that bothers me for real. maybe of the the houses closer to the birds where more contrasted, less defused and had stronger colors it looked better...
just some thoughts... but what do i know

great picture.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2001 9:29 am     Reply with quote
cool + what they said
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2001 11:42 pm     Reply with quote
Damn you sacrelicious!!!!! You said what I was going to!!!
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