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SWANY · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2001 5:18 pm

Now I've got nothing against any religion, but i read this on a website, written by Catholics about the SXE band Minor Threat.

Tinusch: i probably shoudn't have said that about Propaghandi, I know your a Minor threat fan what do you think of this!

ENJOY:

After weeks of undercover investigations I can exclusively reveal to you that the straight edge heavy metal band, Minor Threat, were in fact a group of dangerous subversives who hoped to seize power and install a nazi-communist dictatorship. Basing their philosophy on the teachings of Mao Tse Tung and Adolf Hitler, the band devised their own agenda which was to abolish religion and alcohol. The members of the band also failed to live up to the high personal standards they advocated, as it is now widely known that some of the band were marijuana addicts.

The 'X'
The straight edge movement was founded in 1980 by Ian MacKaye (shown right, with his band Minor Threat). Their emblem was a swastika with the end bits removed from the cross. This was to symbolise that they were nazis, yet also communists as the 'X' also represents the hammer and sickle, which adorns the sinister red flags of communist nations, but without the metal bits. So it stands for two handles.

The straight edge lifestyle edict
They advocated a lifestyle that meant abstinence from sex and drugs, which is to be commended, but also asked their members to refrain from drinking and pipe smoking. This meant that they would refuse communion in a church. Jesus' miracle at the wedding (see John 2: 1-11) was a sign that God likes people to have a drink, so the teachings of the straight edge movement run contrary to ALL Christian philosophy.

Ian MacKaye: potential nazi-communist tyrant?
Ian MacKaye formed Minor Threat to seize power and install a nazi-communist dictatorship. And also to fund his marijuana habit. Once in power, his straight edge government would have abolished contraceptives and drugs, which could only have been a good thing, but would have also outlawed religion and church wine. The detestable practice of skateboarding would have been compulsory for all teenagers and we would have been forced to have skinhead haircuts. In this respect, their philosophy was similar to that of Adolf Hiter and Chairman Mao of China, as they wanted everybody to be the same, but they would have eliminated any "undesirables". Probably.

Credibility blown by mind-bending marijuana addiction
Thankfully this did not happen as Ian MacKaye's credibility was destroyed when it was discovered that he was injecting the lethal drug, marijuana. The photograph on the right shows this pathetic man after yet another one of his "fixes". The straight edge movement is being kept alive by a group of foolish fanatics, but is too unfashionable for most teenagers, so hopefully it will die out soon.

This story illustrates once more just how evil rock music is. I implore any parents reading this site to go through your childrens' CD collection and to publicly burn any offensive material.

Now stop me if I'm wrong, but i don't believe you can inject the 'lethal' drug marijuana

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but they would have eliminated any "undesirables". Probably.

the word probably just shows how fucked it is! They dont know shit, this just covers their arses.

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The detestable practice of skateboarding would have been compulsory for all teenagers and we would have been forced to have skinhead haircuts.

The detestable practice of skateboarding. It just gets better and better.

As i said I've got nothing against Catholic people, but this was really fucked up!

BTW the 'X' was not inspired by the swastika, or the hammer and sickle, it was started when Youths got X's on thier hands at gigs, so they wern't served alchahol

[ December 19, 2001: Message edited by: SWANY ]

[Shizo] · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938

Hehe! I liked this:
"I implore any parents reading this site to go through your childrens' CD collection and to publicly burn any offensive material.".

Also.. nazi-communism? hehe i wonder how that'd work :o
The writes positively doesnt know anything about either, he's American, therefore both Nazi and Communism are *evil* entities in his eyes, so he doubles the punch by putting the two together.

Also the only one thing about communism that i like is that it tried to get rid of religion, cause religion is desease (as Vladimir Lenin said: Religion is opium for the masses).

SWANY · Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2001 6:39 pm

It's so funny isn't it SHIZO, Sorry, ive got to go and inject some of that lethal drug marijuana, probably

Larken · junior member Member # Joined: 09 Dec 2001 Posts: 4

Thanks for posting this SWANY, I needed a good laugh.

I never knew Minor Threat was a "heavy metal" band, I learn something new everyday.

You're right about the X, it had absolutely nothing to do with the swastika, it was just so minors wouldn't be served alcohol at shows.

The quote "detestable practice of skateboarding" also really amused me. Do you know when this was written, SWANY? I'm guessing that it wasn't when this "detestable practice" gained mainstream acceptance (a la X-Games).

The whole skinhead thing is very misunderstood as shown in this article. It only took one band too taint and associate skinheads with Neo-Nazism which is really a shame. Most unfortunately do not understand what Oi was really about.

Lethal, injectable marijuana is the kicker, oh man, that was hilarious. Call me crazy, but if Ian's plan was to install this government in America, starting a punk band was probably not the best way to do it.

I don't have anything against Catholics as well, I just found the need to comment on some of the absurdity in the article. Thanks for posting this SWANY!

SWANY · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 1:36 am

Thanx for commenting Larken, I'm glad I could make you laugh, but dont thank me thank the British Catholic Society, for without them we would have youths partaking in the detestable practice of skateboarding, probably! Hahahahaahahaha.

I'm going to say probably after all my posts, It's so amusing

BTW I just commented you on your nice choice of music in the other thread

wayfinder · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 8:09 am

fnarf

sacrelicious · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 7:43 pm

Come on, this article has to be a joke. NO ONE could possibly be that ignorant. This really sounds more sarcastic than serious. But if you found it on a Catholic website, I suppose that's what it is. What's the link?

SWANY · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 9:01 pm

For all those people who don't believe me, here's the link
http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/sxe

There's more bullshit on that site

Also when they say

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The photograph on the right shows this pathetic man after yet another one of his "fixes".

It's just a photo out of their cd cover, and only one member is a skinhead.

the_monkey · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 10:15 pm

its a joke http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/pittjohnson.html

SWANY · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2001 10:31 pm

God damn it is a joke, i didn't really look through the whole site before i posted this, I'm such a dick, if any one else replies I'm going to wipe this thread off the face of the earth, It's still funny though! Right guys

strata · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2001 3:57 am

Actually, if my memory serves me, it was chariman Mao who said that Religion is opium for the masses...

cheerio =)

[Shizo] · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938

Mao just quoted Lenin!
Vladimir Lenin said that

bld · Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2001 8:19 pm

Pot can be lethal...
You would just have to smoke about 10,000 joints in an hour.

A.Buttle · member Member # Joined: 20 Mar 2000 Posts: 1724

You're both wrong. Marx said that Religion is the opiate of the Masses.

I win.

You guys lose.

[Shizo] · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938

wait.. opiate? heheheh

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the_monkey · Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2001 11:08 am

i thought marx agreed with the masses. well..seeing how communism was made for them.

A.Buttle · member Member # Joined: 20 Mar 2000 Posts: 1724

He did. That's why Marx was anti-religion.

Calling something "the opiate of the masses" isn't exactly positive.

[Shizo] · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938

Getting get rid of religion would be a nice thing, imagine.. no religion! hehe
But then, religion, bad gov. drugs, mistakes, wars - that's what makes up definition of a 'human'.

BTW he said 'Opium'

the_monkey · Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2001 5:50 pm

i dont see how religion is a drug. its not addictive, and its quite a bit of work.

Dr.Squirley · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2001 7:28 pm

hahah, yeah it was marx, man how could some one even complete that with out laughing out of their mind.

Impaler · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2001 6:48 pm

Shizobum-- Mr. Dillingham is actually correct. It's opiate, not opium.

Oh well. I think the equal distribution of that injectable marijuana would be interesting.

christian cox · Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2001 6:54 pm

Eh-heh. This was quite a humorous post, but if it was *actually* real I wouldn't have a very hard time believing it... I mean, I've read some of those religious 'leaflets' on the net... they are a bit hyprocritical

Well, a good laugh anyway, SWANY.

[Shizo] · member Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938

I'm still right because originally in russian it is opium.
You is lazybum, go drink some dovkar!! HE