[SporQ]

please, comment and critique.

image finished with painter and photoshop...



and here is the pencil sketch i did as a prelim...


SporQ

[roundeye]

thats awsome, guy. i like what you did with the hand in the painted version, and the line work looks great. the features seem a little vertically mashed though. dont know if thats intentional or not.

[mellowsmoothe]

i think that it is well done and so is the lighting. if i had a suggestion it would be that i think you should have included more definition in the beard. it seems like a lot of that was taken out from the original, and i think it gives the subject more character. anyway it is good... look forward to more art from you.

[p82d]

Looks amazing - I will say that a lot changed between the original lineart and the final version.

In the final one the figure looks far more 'evil' eyes are much more closed and brooding whilst in the line art the eyes make the figure look upset.

Also the arm looks 'odd' proportion's funny, and it seems to be coming out of his abdonem.

The colouring's amazing really strong and fit's in perfectly with the figure and the contrasts of the skin tones and background tones are really striking.

Very nice

[mellowsmoothe]

one more thing i noticed... the way the arm in the backround comes down to meet the body is incorrect. it doesn't look like it is attached to him, or not very well at least. i would angle his arm more towards his body and maybe show a hint of his shoulder if possible.

[GreenPeach]

Cool. The light is great. But I think the drawing (in the face area) has some nice qualities that the painting generalizes. -texture and angles.

[Kreuze]

Nice work.

I agree with Greenpeach that the face & beard area looks a little too smooth in the painting, and something about the arm makes it look like it might not really fit with his body. I'm weak with anatomy though so I don't know, I think it would look more natural with his hand rotated so that the thumb side is closer (I think it's tough to twist your hand how he has it in the picture), and I think the loose looking sleave might slide down to reveal a bit of the arm when it's held up.



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[Enayla]

Spoooooooooooooooooorq!!!

I love how the eyes turned out Very very nice! I really like how this turned out, especially the shadowing in the face.

I'm sorry, but I got up at 6AM, I won't be able to give any useful crits right now.

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[SporQ]

thank you for the nice comments.

yeah, the features were intentionally mashed, but i may have gone overboard =p

i agree that the painting loses a lot of the drawing's character, especially around the eyes and beard, and it's kind of upsetting. i havent figured out how to paint without losing the feeling of the linework. whenever i go to paint over i just lose it. any suggestions on how to keep the expression of the lines in the finished piece would be greatly appriciated. i dont really want to color it like a comic book, cause i dont want all the lines to be black, i just need a way to keep the shapes and forms the same, without keeping an outline in there, hehe.

and the arm, heh. i must have redrawn it 15 times. just couldnt get it right. (prolly why i blurred it *wink) so i just stuck it in there and hoped for the best. you guys are right though. i think the elbow needs to stick out sideways more and maybe turn the thumb to the viewer more. *shrugs.

again, thanks for all the comments.

SporQ

[Snake Grunger]

Hello SporQ,



The feeling of needing to repaint a bit of your image came to me when I looked at the pencil version after looking at the colored one. I saw alot of nice details that you painted over and neglected in the colored version. What I did is at first I hardened some egdes, for instance the nose, and added some stronger light areas around the face, so you could really feel the shape of the head. (again, you can really feel the shape of the head in the pencil sketch, but it sort of dissapears in the colored version..) I also added little highlights on the darker part of the skin of the head and on the facial hair, again to help make the shapes come out. Finally, what I did is I looked at your sketch, and tried to bring back some of details you had left behind, such as wrinkles on the side of the eye, and forehead wrinkles, etc.. I also gave him non-pearl eyes, just to get a better feeling of the expression on his face, rather than being some sort of zombie.

Anyway, take both mine and yours, and switch between both to find out exactly what I did, why I did it, and the end result. My approach on certain aspects of the picture aren't necessarely better, but simply different, in order to help you (and me, by repainting someone else's picture) make a better analysis of your own work.

[faustgfx]

looking good except (i didn't bother to read the posts so shoot me) the hand/arm.. it's position is just too much to the left of his head. looks inhuman to me.

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[hipmix]

yeah real nice!
But i agree with faust,
is right arm is outta place...
i mean when i look at the pic the first thing i see wrong is this arm...
I like better the seconde version you send!
keep posting!

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[Al_kgs]

Love the mood, the colors and the lineart.
I agree that you lost some of the quality of the original during the coloring process, but I understand it. It's happening all the time to me
Maybe hardening some of his features... but not too much.
Considering the orientation of his shoulders, his arm should be almost behind his head i think.

oh... and keep the milky eyes. I like it!

[frostfyre]

Nice work. Its a very nice image, but the arm does look as though it belongs to someone else (perhaps someone dying, as a result of what the old guy has done? Nah...)

Assuming for a moment that the arm is supposed to be the old guy's, what makes it feel out of joint is a combination of things-

-perspective, or lack of it. The face and head have wonderful structure, but the arm is a flat, graphic shape.

-scale, the arm is huge if its attatched to the old guy and stretched out in that direction

-anatomy, you can't see where the upper arm is at all in relation to the outstretched forearm. Judging from where the elbow seems to be, the shoulder of the individual owning that arm is somewhere near the old man's waist height.

This 3rd thing is what lead me to think that perhaps the arm wasn't his... If it isn't his, then he just clobbered some really huge dude! He looks kinda possessed, so that would make sense.

Hope this helps-

frostfyre

[SporQ]

wow Snake Grunger, i hate you

j/k i really appriciate the paint over. that is just what i wanted it to look like, and your pic really helps me to see what i need to do next time. thanks.

SporQ

(edit)- i still like the milky eyes though


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[Thrush]

Looks like a blue Magic card to me. I like the "Tell it to the hand 'cause the face ain't listening" attitude of the original painting.

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[travis travis]

yeah, 30 other people brought it up, but it's what hit me when I first saw it - scrap the arm, too wide, at the wrong angle, doesn't look like it's his at all. and blurring it only made the discrepancy more noticeable. basically it looks exactly like you weren't following the makeup of the body at all but just throwing an arm in there and the coloring is weird as well, why would it be more faded closer to the bright light? ok enough. nice effort.

[DarkGarden]

Occasionally I get WAY too bored while surfing this board

Anyway, I loved the line art, so here's another of those "20 Minute repaints" It's flawed, and sort of Disney-esque..heh...but it was fun



Nice work above, guys.

Peter


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[-Tepox-]

Goog work!!! Only problem i see is the guys right hand. It doesn't look attached to this fellow. (maybe it's too left)

[Masaccio]

in the original version see wat it look like with out the hand...