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nickmarksdotcom member
Member # Joined: 17 Feb 2001 Posts: 244
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 10:42 pm |
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Intro to my game. Should work this time for you. Tell me what you think about it, how does it make you feel?
http://www.nickmarks.com/game.swf |
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CapnPyro member
Member # Joined: 25 Mar 2000 Posts: 671 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 10:52 pm |
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nickmarksdotcom member
Member # Joined: 17 Feb 2001 Posts: 244
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 10:56 pm |
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awww Capn. You always like my work. Sorry didn't mean to bum you out. The next installment of it will be more upbeat.
Did it at least keep your attention? |
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EviLToYLeT member
Member # Joined: 09 Aug 2000 Posts: 1216 Location: CA, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 11:52 pm |
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I honestly didn't like it either... the thing about it is it doesn't transition well and there's nothing keeping me from closing the page. The text takes too long to change and of course, it's too small. Maybe try something more upbeat and pair it with a bit more background sound? |
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Lateralus junior member
Member # Joined: 02 Apr 2001 Posts: 28 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 12:03 am |
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much too plain, and slow. the subliminal flahing images are kind of cool, but you should make the text bigger, set some kind of backgound, adn make everything more interesting overall. There is alot more that you could do with flash besides what you have done so far... pretty much you are just flahing pictures one keyframe at a time, and that can get kind of boring. Maybe set up a tween to turn the brain dark and fade into black as you begin to talk about death.. and make use of the whole size of the movie. |
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nickmarksdotcom member
Member # Joined: 17 Feb 2001 Posts: 244
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 12:29 am |
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Did you not like the subject matter? did it make you uncomfortable?Is it just to heavy?
THanks guys, yah I know how to do all the motion and tween stuff. I could put a ton of that stuff in there but I really am going for simplicity. simple simple...it is all about the message.
I might make the text bigger though and speed up the text in places. Good advice. Thanks
It will get more upbeat later...at first I want to to hit the viewer and make them think alittle, knock them down a step to get their interest and then I am going to take them up a few notches and let them be happy. |
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dysphoria junior member
Member # Joined: 12 Apr 2001 Posts: 37
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 2:08 am |
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..I like it, but the blue tect needs to be a bit bigger..or a different color, preferably darker.
Good overall concept..I like it.
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Essobie junior member
Member # Joined: 20 Feb 2001 Posts: 34 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 6:14 am |
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If you are going to rely on text to bring your points across, it needs to REALLY be formated perfectly, and in a couple of cases spelled correctly ("in pursuit" is two words).
And there's also the problem with the fact that if this is an intro to a game, I don't think anyone will want to play it. People have enough problems as it is without knowing that we are all a finite amount of moments away from death.
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Daydreamer junior member
Member # Joined: 31 Jan 2001 Posts: 43 Location: Beyond the looking glass...
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 8:11 am |
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even if its all about simplicity....you can still do way more with flash...the text definitely needs to be bigger and more readable...you should keep an eye on formatting the text so that it apperas at least vertically in the same "line"...and add sound, it would make it way more attractive...ohh and btw. speed it up....make it WAY faster
so much for now
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Some do...
Some do both !
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synj member
Member # Joined: 02 Apr 2000 Posts: 1483 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 9:26 am |
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thanks for letting me know i'm dying. how stupid can we get hello.
It doesn't create anything positive. It creates boredom and negativity. if thats what you meant by it then suck the fart out my ass thank you
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nickmarksdotcom member
Member # Joined: 17 Feb 2001 Posts: 244
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 10:16 am |
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Thanks Dysphoria! I am glad you liked it. It is definately one of my stranger pieces of artwork. Nice to know someone likes it.
I did it knowing that 90% of people wouldn't like it...at least not at this stage. In my opnion that is good art. It is easy to get some praise. But to get people hating your work is pretty hard.
Essombie...Thanks for the spelling catch.
You say" People have enough problems as it is without knowing that we are all a finite amount of moments away from death." Well that is my point, don't these problems pale in comparission to death? Maybe they wouldn't seem so big to people if they just looked at the bigger picture.
Synj. It is supposed to be negative..but only in the beginning. It is going to get really upbeat coming up. Check back in a few days and let me know what you think.
Although I didn't want it to be boring. I think I will add some sound to it...try to beef it up some more. Thanks for the advice everyone...I will definately make the text bigger and make it faster. |
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black_fish member
Member # Joined: 31 Jul 2000 Posts: 333 Location: Los Angeles, California
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 10:45 am |
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I don't like it because it doesn't make sense to me, it doesn't make me feel uncomfortable, and it doesn't make me think. I just don't see where is the point. Some of the stuff sounds like Tyler Durden drunk
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sirstudlymodugal member
Member # Joined: 20 Feb 2001 Posts: 69 Location: right here
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 10:48 am |
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Getting people not to like your work is pretty hard. Is that what you really said? (You'll be sorry you said it tommorrow.) :-)
Listen, this seems to be an intro to some kind of a game, I doubt that anyone would refer to the introduction to a novel, for instance, as art. If what it needs to do is get an idea across you might want to listen to some of the comments made here. I would imagine that it matters to you that people are entertained in some manner, even if they are uncomfortable. During the flash sequences you asked if we were uncomfortable, sorry but that's a bit silly, like stopping a horror flic and asking if the viewers are scared. Either it makes people uncomfortable or it doesn't. A good example of a difficult or uncomfortable movie to watch would be "Saving Private Ryan" taking the example of a large Hollywood flic. A smaller indie film would be something like "Eraser Head". I would take ques from these sort of references. For instance flash the image of a goat with it's intestines laid open. References death and is definetly uncomfortable to look at, now counter that with the images of a newborn baby and we start to get the idea, and feel a bit queezy at the same time.
I believe your copping out when you claim nobody likes great art. (I say phooey) You should take the oppurtunity to concede to some decent criticism and improve. Disliking something DOES NOT make it great art. It is way to easy to make something people don't like, it is much harder to keep people intigued and interested. Keeping a captivated audience is what you really want, not a bored and indifferent one.
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nickmarksdotcom member
Member # Joined: 17 Feb 2001 Posts: 244
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 11:45 pm |
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LOL SirStudy. All I meant was in general on this board, usually everyone likes everyone's work. They will lend critism but there are almost never quotes like "It doesn't create anything positive. It creates boredom and negativity. if thats what you meant by it then suck the fart out my ass thank you".
Eraser Head!! great movie. I like your ideas about the goat and dead baby. I think your are definately right about adding some horrific imagery in that section. Thanks
And I didn't say nobody likes great art did I? Let me clarify. Whatever art someone likes is fine by me...I will not generlize for everyone what great art is. But personally for me I love art that envokes a clear reaction. I want people to either love or hate my work. I don't want to make art that people are indiffrent too. I agree it is hard to keep people intigued and interested....that is what I am trying to do.
I do take every word that everyone says here to heart and am going to do my best to incorporate it into my artwork. Thanks Sirstudy |
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Radiater member
Member # Joined: 09 Mar 2001 Posts: 331 Location: Vancouver, B.C.
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2001 4:08 pm |
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Hey Nick,
Interesting.
When I was in my late teens and early twenties, I had a morbid fascination with death. My artwork and poetry seemed to revolve around it. Now that I'm older (30), and I see death on a more regular basis where I work (in the ER of the trauma hospital of British Columbia), my fascination with it has completely disappeared. However, your work certainly evoked alot of thought's in me, and therefore is a success I guess.
What can I suggest to improve it. Hmmm, theres not much in it other than the words that made me think of death. Perhaps images contrasting death and life are required at some point. Maybe your brain needs to shrivel? That's all that, uh, comes to mind.
On another note: In order to die, you have to be born, and you have to live in between. I have seen death, it is not fascinating. It is final. Fascinate yourself with life.
Radiater.
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nickmarksdotcom member
Member # Joined: 17 Feb 2001 Posts: 244
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2001 4:17 pm |
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Thanks Radiater,
I am very happy to hear that my work envoked thoughts in you. That does make it a success in my book.
I like the idea of the brain shriveling. I might just use that.
Good Advice. I do think I will concentrate more on life. The death piece is not what i want to say, at least not at first. |
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theresa member
Member # Joined: 05 Apr 2000 Posts: 200
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2001 9:26 pm |
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when i was watching it all i could think about is how much the person who made it was trying to create subliminal messages haha
overload on the blinkies.
ever think of becoming a mortician? hehe |
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