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Francis
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 6:07 pm     Reply with quote
No line drawing!



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Cos
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 6:10 pm     Reply with quote
hey kool, that character looks phat francis. maybe the sword should be in more shadow tho? not really sure..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 6:11 pm     Reply with quote
Bitchin, now that's what I'm talking about.

Nicely done, I'm lovin each pic more and more. btw. I see your shwartz is as big as mine

Is that a lightsaber, or a glowing katana?

Great job!

-Skeez
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 6:22 pm     Reply with quote
glowing katana ooo that would kick ass!
and this picture does kick ass!
i really love that character francis... makes me wanna draw him
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 6:25 pm     Reply with quote
Francis:: Ghandi was a super-callused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.

Works better.

a. there's an all-time fave right there.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 6:26 pm     Reply with quote
Perspective seems a bit off on the wall on the left. Like, it's too thick, or it's at an angle or something.

Other than that, kickin'.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 6:27 pm     Reply with quote
Ninja Darth Vader.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 6:52 pm     Reply with quote
I was expecting a Spaceballs picture here....

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 8:10 pm     Reply with quote
AAAaaauuuuugggghhhHHHH!!!

It's Retro Darth Vader!

I like it!
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Anthony
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 8:34 pm     Reply with quote
Love your painting Francis-hope you won't mind the 5 minute paint over too much.

I just had to. I didn't remember what his mask looked like though-got his tie though! :]

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Dean Welsh
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 9:55 pm     Reply with quote
Francis: Really neat. I can't figure out what's going on with the light on the right side of the archway though It's confusing me.

Anthony. NOw THAT's more like it!

-Dean
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 10:10 pm     Reply with quote
Definently like the character/outfit and the scence in general, nice and dark.

Impressive.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 10:31 pm     Reply with quote
hahaha
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2001 11:04 pm     Reply with quote
Aghk! LUDICROUS SPEED!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 1:53 am     Reply with quote
I see your Schwartz is as big as mine!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 2:20 am     Reply with quote
Looks good Francis. Now raise the ambient a little so we can see the rest of the figure. Not too much, maybe just some really big shapes that could even be differences in local value and materials within the suit.

You are still thinking �logically� about the white wall structures in the middle ground. Would you see every turn of the forms or would some be lost? That is one of the hardest things about painting from your head. Some changes of form are really lost and you can simplify them into bigger shapes, with little or no indication of how they join. You did this great in the figure, maybe a little too much. Painting from life, or even photos can help with learning how to simplify.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 6:22 am     Reply with quote
Looks great francis
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 8:34 am     Reply with quote
Nice dude Francis! And nice crits Spooge.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 9:25 am     Reply with quote
Nice job, francis.

Spooge, you're just so darn helpful
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 9:39 am     Reply with quote
"no line drawing" meaning straight up drawn on the computer or you painted over the line and we can't see it now?
either way it looks great.
I like the concept, too.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 9:41 am     Reply with quote
(Makes mental notes,)
(starts doodling,)
(spends rest of lesson staring out of window)
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Anthony
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 1:53 pm     Reply with quote
In the vein of what Spooge was saying(very well I might add), if you loosen up and don't worry about so much structure as far as defining walls and hollows so much right away-just let it get messy, find shapes, start to define those shapes, and sometimes those shapes will blend into one shape. I dunno about Craig, but in my own meager work I had a habit of trying to define all the shapes and such in the background right away, worrying about perspective, etc. I wasn't realizing that in doing so I was limiting myself to overly-simple shapes. Now I look at the composition of the pic first, what, generally, I want in it, the mood, and the colors. And so from this swirling mass I can pull ideas. A blank canvas is horrible for creativity, but a messy one's great, and once you get used to that you can begin to try to control it again. At least, it's been improving my work a lot(looong way to go of course :] .

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Francis
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 4:45 pm     Reply with quote
Cos - you may be right - there does seem to be too much light on it.
Skeezer - originally a lightsaber, but I decided to go against expectations (a little at least)
burn0ut - thanks!
A. - I will go edit - thanks for the suggestion.
impaler - it's thick, but other than that, should be OK - just a simple one point perspective.
Anthony - that cracked me up. Nice work.
Dean - eh, it's not the greatest background - worried a little too much about the perspective and not enough about what would look cool behind him (her?).
spooge - thanks, very helpful. I will try to have those comments in mind the next time I do this.
agent44 - straight into Photoshop, starting with rough shapes.
digitalmar - I think so; I read his comments the same way.
Anthony - good ideas, I will keep them in mind for sure.

Thanks everybody.



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 11:56 pm     Reply with quote
Awesome design on the figure Francis. I haven't reached the "no line drawing" level yet. Just gotta keep at it . . .

About what Spooge said: Does he mean you rendered the wall edges too much? That they are too defined?

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