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EBE
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 1:42 am     Reply with quote
Hi everybody
I�m going to have an Single and LP Release in (I hope) 7 Month with my brother.
I had the idea to put some own drawings into the booklet. There is one song we wrote on the Album which we called "Little sister". It�s about a russian girl that died
and nobody knows why. The Lyrics are about the Brother who sings how she were found and that he whishes he would be the one that died. She�s laying in a lake or a River.
I drew that picture I had in mind and need some help now how to do some reflections on the water, shadows and so on. Shall i put her out of Focus, because she�s laying under water? Any comments on the picture on what I could change? I wanted the picture to be under the Lyrics in the booklet.




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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 2:05 am     Reply with quote
...is it better with the "out of focus" ???

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 2:10 am     Reply with quote
...any Idea how I could add some snow? Like snowflakes from above with some bigger out of Focus (near at the camera) and smaller (near the River or the ground).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 3:07 am     Reply with quote
I'm not sure how to do the snowflakes, I think you'd have to ask someone a lot better with Photoshop (or whichever program you use)... but otherwise... I prefer the in-focus picture to the out-of-focus one, but it's probably a matter of taste. The perspective is great, especially those branches dipping towards the water... but it looks a bit happy and pretty to be about a dead girl - she doesn't look very dead to me. Just kinda surprised and holding her breath. I think it's the way she's lying - if she were dead, a lot more of her would float, I think. And most of her hair. I don't think she'd be lying in that seductive pose, anyway!
I really like it, I just think it might be a bit clean and bright and cheerful for the subject matter... but I guess that depends on what sort of music you're writing, as well...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 4:23 am     Reply with quote
Hi Pixie
Yeah that�s exactly what I was thinking. she looks a little bit like she�s surprised. I don�t know what makes the difference (in: how to draw it) between being surprised and being dead.
a friend of mine said that she looks a little bit like a rubberpuppet you can get in a sex shop. And I had to admit his thought. But I really don�t know what to change in her face to make her look dead.
Yes the picture is a little bit happy. And thats what I wanted to draw. Nice colors and a light athmosphere to show her innocence. If I had drawn it dark and misterious, then it wouldn�t have the athmo of a bright nice day against the oppressively feeling of the death. I wanted to show, that even when the little sister died, the worlds still turning and sun�s shining still.....
Maybe anyone could tell me what to do with the expression on her face? And with the snowflakes and with the refelctions on the water?
Thanks a lot
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 10:13 am     Reply with quote
...did I capture the "snow feeling". any comments?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 6:24 pm     Reply with quote
lol,at first I thought it was a guy..lips look like a mustache..
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 6:56 pm     Reply with quote
Looks a little comical for the subject matter... I know you're trying to convey a sense of innocence, but it comes across as more of a lighthearted jab at her demise. Like there should be some funny caption below it or something. I'd fix her expression and tone down the saturation a bit.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 7:17 pm     Reply with quote
Actually I have a few more suggestions... Sorry to pick on you but I'm feeling creative.

1. The expression. Make it look less cartoony and more serious. Maybe look at one of the somber expressions in some of Enayla's paintings as inspiration.

2. Tone down the saturation. Maybe give the whole painting a darker tint, like a grayish-blue wash over it. Give it a gloomier feel.

3. Add a slight distortion or rippling to the objects that are underwater. Try not to make it too extreme, and personally, I think it would be better achieved without the use of filters.

4. Add some slight ripples emanating from the parts of her body that are penetrating the surface of the water to emphasize the effect.

5. Add some slight shine and highlights to the parts of her skin that are above the surface.

Hope those help a little bit.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2002 10:39 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks to everybody for the help (especially Tinusch) I will fix some things and post it here
Tinusch: No I will not change the comic style to another style, because I�m happy that I found my style and wanted to make it look cartoonish and not real, that was very important to me, because I wanted a special feeling for that picture But thanks for the other comments. I will do my best
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2002 9:40 am     Reply with quote
Remove the leafs if your going to add snow I think !
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