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alex_black632
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2002 6:31 am     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2002 1:16 pm     Reply with quote
i dont know about the facial expression--the eyes look tired and dead since one seems to be bigger than the other. work on the nose a bit more because the nostrils look too large and too close together. other than that i think you added the colors in the face pretty well.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2002 2:36 pm     Reply with quote
heres a quick repaint for you.



The proportion were not correct. The Eyes need to be the same size, the eyes should not be much wider than the mouth. The neck should come down from the ears, the nose should have shadows on the bottom. The lips should be shaded (the higher parts should be whiter and the lower parts should be darker). The hair should be lighter where the light hits it. Then you should smudge the hair and then use the dodge and burn tools to make them more real. The neck should be shaded so the chin and neck can be told apart. Get a book called Jack Hamms Drawing the face and body. That will help you learn such details and oh yea.. stick around Sijun.com because the people here helped me improve LOTS!!

Hope this helped.

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alex_black632
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2002 4:48 pm     Reply with quote
thanks for the help, do you think it looks alittle bit better.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2002 9:40 pm     Reply with quote
I find that the first one is actually a better pic than the second. However, the eye on the left of the picture is a little small and too far away from the center of the face. Try to achieve some symmetry between the two sides of the face. The nose needs to be less pig-like (sorry about the pig reference)and it may add to the pic to give it a shadow on the underside. Fill in part of the nostril with black and it'll work a bit better. as for the jawline, the same thing about symmetry comes into play. The back of the jaw, where it goes up to the side of the face actually happens at the mid-mouth, so you'll need to pull that down a bit. But a really great start on the first one. I'd stick with that one.

Your second one you compensated too big with the eyes and so lost some of the great qualities happening with the first one. But the thing I love about both prtraits is the hair. Keep going!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2002 12:02 pm     Reply with quote
I did a little bit of pixel pushing:



I pretty much agree with the crits so far. Above I circled in red the area problems and pointed them out in the repaint. There is little space between the right eye and the eyebrow and that makes it look un-even compared to the other eye. Also note there should be a little bit of a shadow on the whites of the eyes, created by the eyelids. The whites of the eyes should also be a little bit grayish or cream, depending on the colors of the hair and clothes.

The nose - you can make it less "pig-like" by reducing them to two slits and not two round holes. Widen the sides a little bit so that the nose itself isn't too round and more of a triangle.

The most important part: the chin. The original picture seems to neglect this area. Beefen it up a bit and also add a dramatic shadow underneath to emphasize depth.

It really is a nice piece though. I had to restrain myself from working on it some more. I hope this helps. The above repaint might be really inaccurate to the person you are trying to portray as I did not have the referrence from which you are working on.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2002 11:34 pm     Reply with quote
Katie Holmes by any chance. It is really coming along, the only mistake that I see is that from the very begining is her nose. It is really throwing the whole face off. Try painting it as if you are looking right on to it rather than up it.

JA
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