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[666]Flat
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 11:25 am     Reply with quote
If you could add some improvement suggestions by scribblin' over this sketch it would be most appreciated.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 1:20 pm     Reply with quote
warning, strong crits coming up. some serious anatomy problems there i have to say. the head is too long, and the face looks very masculine. also hair looks too far up, like she got a boldpatch. breasts look a bit square and a definitely a wee bit too big ^__^. she looks like she got some beerbelly. legs are too skinny and too wide appart, also you should change the pose slightly, its very, i dunno, hard id say, also the nose is a bit knobbly. i like the hands thou, hand are my weakpoint, so from there you got my respect. also something i realised is to instead of trying to define the female figure through lines, try defining it through the shading and colouring and shadows and stuff, gives the pic a softer look. also women generally dont stand with their legs appart like that ^__^ sorry that was some harsh crit there, but keep it up and take it positively. i gave you only what i would expect to be done to my pics if i want someone to crit it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 3:26 pm     Reply with quote
Dude, I'm a hardcore playa. A crit won't get me down, no matter how nasty it's written. Considering the critiques I usually get yours is really gentle anyways.

I changed the face a lill', should be lookin' mo' female by now.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 3:50 pm     Reply with quote
Hmmm... I guess this way of drawing girls is burned into your mind... .
They always look like some bodybuilder girls... :/
Maybe you should rather draw guys... ;]
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2002 1:25 am     Reply with quote
hey man, this looks much better, now try erasing the lines around the stomach, and make the left leg sligtly thicker. starting to look great there. ^__^
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2002 6:52 pm     Reply with quote
all the above comment basicially get what is wrong with the pic. But her left leg is shorter than her right leg, her left nipple is a little too far over, her breast are sitting too high(and a bit odd shaped if they're meant to be really big)her right shoulder is sitting a bit too high, the ribcage is showing a bit too much. The stomach, or the so called 'beer belly' can be allieviated by changing it so that it is strait rather than curved, and put in a slight indication of the seperation between the two sides of the stomach. Just slightly mind you. Her hands are a bit too big and blunt for a female. Taper them down a bit. her right arm is off, it looks a little broken. Pull the indication of the elbow down a bit more. The neck ends at the collarbones, so they are a little too far south. Looks like you had them higher before, they were good there. The left hip needs to be higher, to give more of an indication she has a hip on that side.

Her face is nearly there. However her eyes are a bit out of alignment and are too big for the face. The chin is too far to the left of the picture and the use of a strait line on the side of the face for the 3/4 pose isn't really working out. indent the line a bit where the eye is to give her an eye socket and a bit of a cheek. The nose may need reflexive lines indicating that that she is smiling. Pull them down to around her mouth. Remember, the neck is a tube basicially, and so the lines of the neck should be parrelel. Also darken the parts of the hair closest to the face. It makes the face stand out more and better synthesizes natural shadows.

That should be it. Hope it helps. Didn't plan on giving you such a big crit. Keep at it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2002 1:42 am     Reply with quote
You know, you should take your member name and etch it onto her head (that includes your slut from previous post).
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2002 8:36 pm     Reply with quote
You have a pretty nice style there flat. I do find a lot of the meaning to your
stuff questionable to say the least, but each to his own I guess, I'm not here to judge anyone as I wouldn't like it done to me and I'm not into censorship.
Despite the bashing you get, it does seem like you have a genuine interest to learn and improve.The main thing that bothers me about the women you do is that they come across very masculine. Now theres nothing wrong with muscular women, but I think you need to have
a certain degree of femaninity that comes along with that to get it across well. Things I've noticed you do is that you give them very square jaws and thick wastes. Saying that this one is coming across better than others I've seen from you. I'm not sure I'm fully understanding the pose but she seems like a jungle type woman. So maybe animalistic? Anyway I thought I would try do one. I was drinking just a little while ago so not sure how good a job I did :P Anyway, here it is, hope it helps.



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2002 10:08 pm     Reply with quote
Here are my crits. Learn something when you draw. Spend some time on a piece. Ask yourself this question; Am I proud of this work? If not work on it some more and post it then. It seems with your constent postings you don't seem to be learning anything. Take the time to learn from your mistakes and learn to self-crit.

More crits:
1- Eyes are lop-sidded.

2- Hair seems to be stuck on, like a wig.

3- Left side of face should have more contour less vertical line.

4- Stance looks terribly uncomfortable, almost impossible, if not. What good reason is she standing like that for? (scratch that I don't want to know)

5- One shoulder is skinnier than the other.

6- Shoulders are lop-sidded

7- Breasts are not the same size/shape

8- Breasts have no nipple or aerola

9- Beasts are to high on the chest.

10- Pelvic area vs the upper torso is not proportioned correctly. As of now, the upper body would snap right off the lower body.

11- Legs are both different lengths.

12- Arms are different lengths.

13- Staff isn't straight.

14- Your picture could benifit from lighter and darker tones and shades. You need more of the darkest darks and more of the lightest lights. (if benifit is the right word)

15- Composistion is boring. Try a perspective next time. Something raised or lowered from eye-level (wait a second... sratch that one too).

16- Download loomis books learn. Maybe take life drawing classes.

17- And I don't mean to be a p14y4 h4t3r or what ever you call it, but can you give up the act. You seem to like drawing. You seems to be getting better at it, but you would probably get better resposes if you gave up the bullshit.
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