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0knowledge
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2002 1:10 am     Reply with quote
ok this is my first real attempt at character design and digital painting in photoshop, i think its going ok so far, although im really not sure how to approach the skin but anyway tell me what you think and any tips and what not.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2002 1:28 am     Reply with quote
There is no cleavage.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2002 1:33 am     Reply with quote
you seem to be building up very nicely. i think you'll do just as well with the skin. one of the most important things to do with skin is just to go for it, and work it out...

that is to say: i like to lay down a rough skin-tone sometimes, then add warms and cools and mess with washes of different hues and intensities. it's something you figure out along the way, but skin tones are basically made up of a simple mixture of yellows, reds, and blues... sometimes the blues are more green than blue. it's all a matter of goofing around and paying attention to how others do it.

in the face, for instance, the lower portion of the face (below nose) sports your cooler colors... the nose/eye area is your warmer/redder colors, while the forhead is more yellow/orange. there are many variations of this, of course, depending on the subject, lighthing, and what mood you want to convey.... but those are some 'general' basic principles to go by.

one of my buddies, ryan wood, actually likes to flop the cools & warms in pretty heavy right from the start, and work in the skin tones with washes from there.. there are many methods... shit -i just hope my ramblings have done some good. sorry if i'm not making any sense... it's beyond late here.

good luck. keep us updated, ok?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2002 1:34 am     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lunatique:
There is no cleavage.


yeah there is, backward clevage.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2002 11:29 am     Reply with quote
hey thanks alot mike, i guess ive realized as ive started doing this that you do just really have to work it out, and do a lot of painting and repainting.

p.s. does anyone know where i could find some like really professional tuts on how to do comic book style coloring?
oh and whats flattening mean in the world of comic book lingo?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2002 6:06 pm     Reply with quote
Those are some great links Kaete.

O-k Here is my thought on what would be beter for the 'cleavage' area. You want the feeling that you could look up into the shirt and see everything, but you can't. Just like upper cleavage if you were high enough you could look down. So I kinda pathetically made the shirt looser on the bottom and brightened the shadow on the bottom to pop it out. Hope it helps.


Feebs - Welcome back been missing your consrtuctive critizism, in the form of a babble.

JA

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2002 12:22 am     Reply with quote
Do you mean using "Flats" when coloring? It's just a technique that makes selecting sections easier.

Anyway, all that and more is explained here:
http://www.comiccolors.com/index1.html

Here's a cut'n'paste of their tutorial list:

Coloring

Laura:
A shadowy tutorial, by Laura Depuy composed by Daniel S. Dunnam and S. Steven Struble (assembled by Eric Maziade)
A cuts tutorial: The Ball, by Laura Depuy composed by Daniel S. Dunnam and S. Steven Struble (assembled by Eric Maziade)
A cuts tutorial: Chromes, by Laura Depuy composed by Daniel S. Dunnam and S. Steven Struble (assembled by Eric Maziade)
A cuts tutorial: The Leg, by Laura Depuy composed by Daniel S. Dunnam and S. Steven Struble (assembled by Eric Maziade)

Sweeny:
"What is flattening" is a constant question, and now the answer is here. Learn to Flat like the Pros by Mark Sweeny (I think this is the one you want.)
Contrast Tutorial by Mark Sweeny
Rendering Tutorial of Light, Shade, Value, and Sturation by Mark Sweeny
Creating Digital Paintings by: Mark Sweeney, residing on The Drawing Board

Misc:
Tutorial on coloring comics on a Mac with Photoshop, as written by Doug at Image Comics
Two ways of setting up your coloring on photoshop copied from the aol message boards.
Computer Coloring by: Eddie Loven, residing on The Drawing Board
Comic/Computer Coloring Potpourri by: Dudley Bryan Jr., residing on The Drawing Board
Poison Frog Color Tutorial by good friend Quinn Supplee: hosted by Comic Craft
A Color Tutorial by another good friend Christopher Sotomayor
A nice coloring tutorial with some nice pointers.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2002 1:57 pm     Reply with quote
hey thanks for all the help, those tuts really gave me some ideas. ive also finally made some progress in how to do the skin so look for an update in a few days.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2002 1:47 pm     Reply with quote
ok here is my update, this is my best attempt as skin so far, but obviously im going to have to do it again, i think im getting better with the highlights and what not though shes just a little to bronze maybe? and comments?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2002 3:14 pm     Reply with quote
try shading skin with some red tones in the shadows... don't use pure black
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2002 11:01 pm     Reply with quote
ok i think its coming to a close, especially since im sick of looking at this, but ive learned a lot i think so um yah anyways any comments criticisms before i close this up and put it in the finished pile
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2002 10:36 am     Reply with quote
wow. that just got better and better. the end product looks really great.

i'd say hidding nipples is sexier than showing nipples, but each to his own, eh?

-Ken
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2002 6:07 am     Reply with quote
WOAH!! That's one odd flag (or wtf it's called)

*edit* Just came to think of something.. this is the first time I've ever been in the "Work in progress" section... wierd

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2002 7:02 am     Reply with quote
One thing I notice is that the detail on her one boot is very high, yet nowhere else do we see that same level of detail (the shorts are fairly blurry). Unless there is something very significant about her boots and laces, you should blurr them out. Either that, or carry the same level of detail throughout the figure. But that's a lot of work.
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