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Steven Stahlberg · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 9:01 pm

If it's a bit stiff and 'posey' that's cause it started out as a fun thing where these characters are actually posing like this for a real photographer, then he clicks the shutter and says 'ok you can relax now'... it's supposed to become an animation, but of course you don't get the point across in a still image... anyway c&c and colorings welcome...

Novacaptain · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 9:15 pm

great, it seems cramped however.

If I had a sword *that* big I wouldn't come nearly as close to the dragon as he did. This has 2 logical reasons:

The sword needs space to be swung around for a good hit.

Dragons bite, scratch, spit, chew, trample, kick, Tail-whip and hurt people.

Does the woman control the dragon? It seems like she's not very happy with the idea of having the beast slain by Mr. I-can-benchpress-my-volvo.

it seems to lack a little depth, the dragon's foot and the warrior's foot are on the same line, their shadows really emphasize this.

Hope I'm of any assistance

[ February 08, 2002: Message edited by: Novacaptain ]

codic · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 9:29 pm

I think the female was rendered very successfuly. I also like the beast's lower leg musculature. All the sinews strain and pull against each other quite dramatically.

My only reservation is that handlebar thing the woman is holding. It seems to me that there should be more of a harness there, if that was your intent.

really nice work.

Anthony · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:53 pm

Evidently a Newfoundland ate his great toe! :] The rendering is nice as usual. Some anatomy issues going on here and there, but I'm sure you see most of them already. Good job!

Lunatique · Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2002 11:04 pm

Once again, a pleasure.

Boris, anyone? (Just teasing. I jokingly colored it somewhat Boris-ish too.

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I don't know about the dude. He is dangerously skirting Boris-eque. I think you might want to make his pose more exaggerated(Think Phil Hale). The reason why Boris's stuff looks so stiff is because they are realistic static poses, which absolutely does not work in a fantasy painting. And for the same reason, Frazetta kicks Boris's ass.

The dude is facing the 3 o' clock direction, while the chick is actually placed about 2 o' clock position to him, which doesn't line up.

The lizard thing could be bigger too? He looks a bit tiny for a monster.

[ February 08, 2002: Message edited by: Lunatique ]

palladia mors · Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2002 6:14 am

gotta love the dragon's leg...great work!
overall a _very_ nice piece. but now for the crits:
the triceps muscle of the barbarian looks
strange. don't know exactly what's wrong with it, perhaps there should be seen some points where the muscle connects with the bone. it doesn't look like a triceps muscle, and i think there should be a glimpse of the biceps too.
umm...but then again, I guess you're still working with the picture so I'm not going any further with the critique.

Vgta · Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2002 7:08 am

Very cool pic and dynamic, the only thing that seems to static is the dragon. The head has a nice flow to it, but the body seems to stiff. Maybe shift its body a little and make it more in a guard type stance.

DarkStalker1 · Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2002 5:09 pm

Very nice work Steven ! I was wondering were you going to finish this pic ? I would like to color it ,but if your going to finish the details I would prefer to wait . I think this pic has potential and I would really like to color it !

Steven Stahlberg · Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2002 6:38 pm

Thanks everybody! I've uploaded a different version (see it at the top) trying to take into account most c&c, thanks Lunatique for a cool paintjob! DarkStalker1, if you want to paint on this it should be pretty final for a while, I'm going to have to work on something different for a while.
Yeah I don't know about the triceps either... that and her leg were the hardest.

I think the woman controls the dragon, but she may also be telling it to back off - "he's my special friend, Bobo, stop...!"

Steven Stahlberg · Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2002 11:24 pm

I got a suggestion to reverse part of the picture, I thought it was a good one and I tried it - see it at the top. Some parts are rougher than before now, I was in a hurry, have to work on some other stuff for a while.
Thanks DarkStalker1, cool colors, sorry for the many different versions.

DarkStalker1 · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2002 12:10 am

Well I could not wait to color ! Thanks Steven for putting it up for color !

DarkStalker1 · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2002 6:57 am

I really like the changes you have made !

I am off to try and color this one .

Marakaz Buzjuz · Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2002 2:10 pm

complement: cool drawing!

question: why would the dragon turn his neck like that? the former posision could have suggested the man attacked from behind, surprising the woman and her dragon, now it looks like he ran up to the dragon real fast, made a summer sult and thus tricking him into bending his neck like that, ran back, got his sword, and attacked...