[flipside]

I tried to convey a sense of fear.. He's seeing something, and it's very bright light, so there should be really starky shadows and such I think, but I just wasn't able to make what I pictured in my head. Also I feel it doesn't look like skin.. Someone wanna help me out a bit?

[PixHortHiT]

His head is kinda deformed, more than then that I cannot say...

[mucha]

well - i am scared now

[dogfood]

Look in a mirror and put on a really frightened face. Notice how each element reacts. There are also different types of fear. The book on facial expressions seems pretty good (I don't have it and can't remember the title, though).
It's important to first realize what different parts of the face are going to do, otherwise it will just look strange. Check out, especially, the mouth, eyebrows, and lower eyelids.

[ January 29, 2002: Message edited by: dogfood ]

[specialbrew]

Okay, I think that first off there needs to be a good deal more made of the single light source, which should throw contours of the face into stark relief. Don't be afraid of using plenty of darks and black, it'll make the image far more dynamic.

Second, try to make the pose and expression as dynamic as possible, with plenty of energy... I feel that the rendering you've gone for is a bit conservative.

I've posted my own version to give you an idea of what I mean.

sb

[KenMasters]

to start the best thing you could do is raise the eye brows.. and wrinkle the forehead...
thats the most important..
the hardest to get right is the mouth..
the slightest change will effect the subtulty
of the expression.
like dogfood saiid..
look in a mirror..

i have a full lenght mirror in my room
good for those standing poses

[flipside]

Pixhorthit: Yeah.. I guess it's the mouth/jaw area which is really bad.

mucha: Um.. I guess that wasn't a compliment :P How about some constructive critisism?

dogfood: I'm well aware of that there are different types of fear.. And I know that book with facial expressions you're talking about, a friend of mine have it. And yes, it's good, so I'll prolly buy it soon. I didn't look in a mirror for the ref further down, but used a webcam which should also do the job

specialbrew: thanks for the example I put in more darks and black in this one. I still think it lacks the energy I want tho, but atleast it got a little better. Hehe.

Kenmasters: The mouth sure is hard yeah.. especially in open state.. Thanks for the tips! He has some wrinkles now, tho they need work.

Ok, here's the ref pic, taken with my webcam



and here's the overpaint, with modifications on the lighting... Tried to use more stark shadows..

[specialbrew]

that I like!

sb

[PixHortHiT]

good one!