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Daniel R · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2001 6:34 am

This is my first post. I would like to know what you think about this.
Any suggestions ?

and ...do you think there aren't enough elements in this pic ? Do i have to add some ?

Thanks,
Daniel R

etape 1

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Mr. T · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2001 7:39 am

good start. post a bit more finished pics, will ya?

Daniel R · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2001 7:42 am

do you want me to post more in the Gallery/Finished Work section or some more pics of this castle ?

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Daniel R · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2001 8:32 am

next step: i think i fixed the problem by adding some vegetation in the foreground.
what do you think about it ? Do you think it improves the composition ?

thanks

Dryfire · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2001 2:08 pm

yeah, i agree with da T, you need some more detail in it.. its a castle.. so you might want some straighter brush strokes too

Daniel R · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2001 2:18 pm

i think this symmetrical composition is better because it's like beeing at the place of someone who's going out of the forest and suddenly sees the castle.

The fact that the castle is in the center gives more the feeling that *you are* in this situation.

Anyway, i'll try the not-symmetrical composition: it could be interesting.
Tonight, i had the idea it would be nice to add some presence in the image. I think of one or more little monsters hidden in the shadows and looking at you - it could add a nice feeling of danger.
and...in this case, the symmetrical compo would be inadequate.

thank you very much for your comments.

I like old buildings very much: gothic and roman churchs, castles, cathedrals... So i was looking for reference on the web but i never found good websites. Maybe you know some ?

Daniel R · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2001 5:46 pm

you were right Rob. I moved the castle a little to the left, and it's definitely better. Thank you for your advice.

I began to work on details of the trees. I tried to work on the castle but after a while i deleted the layer. I couldn't get a good result. I have to work on this problem.

Shiro_tengu · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2001 6:14 pm

Images tr�s gentilles. Je les aime. Peut-�tre il serait sage de mettre peu plus de d�tail dans le ch�teau.

Daniel R · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2001 6:30 pm

c'est la premi�re fois que quelqu'un utilise le terme "gentil" pour d�crire mes images ! D'habitude on me prend pour un psychopathe.

Rob McLay · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2001 12:28 am

I think the composition would benefit from the castle being in one of the upper left/right corner, or least somewhat off from center. That way the trail could lead the eye diagonally across the image giving a better sense of the distance.
I think the sketch looks great BTW.

Mr. T · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2001 12:30 am

It's ok. Just don't get it too complicated. What I meant was- this is the good first step, with a larger brush. Try detailing it.

Kin Aquila · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2001 1:49 pm

unless you plan to add a complex object to the front part ... go on detailing the castle ... since you always mention it to be the most immportant part. additionaly drawing the path to it fine and sharp will add to the "there you are ...!" feeling

maybe you could try to leave the sky as it is. would make a fine effect on the final image. but i'm not sure about this.

Dryfire · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2001 2:11 pm

very cool man, looks much better when it is defined more.. oh by the way, colors are great!

Il est tres beau!

Daniel R · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2001 3:29 pm

thank you very much. I feel more confiant.

It's the first time i work with colors in such a style and i'm not sure if i'm going the good way.

again, does somebody know a site where i could find some good ref about gothic/roman stuff ? I would more interested if it's about castles, because i have a lot of illustrated books at home, but i realised that there are only churchs and cathedrals in it.

Mr. T · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2001 3:47 pm

Btw, one thing i noticed a moment ago - there's nothing behind the castle. At least it looks like that. Either add some haze or some hills/whatever in the back.

Rob McLay · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2001 4:29 pm

Starting to look real nice. My only comment at this point would be that I would like to see some blue(or other cool color) in the shadow areas of the foreground.(you may be getting to this as you have done this with the castle)
Here are some castle photo links:
http://www.castles-of-britain.com/castleg.htm
http://www.castellitoscani.com/castles_index.htm
http://www.castles.org/castles/
The photo quality on these sites are pretty much hit or miss, but there's a good chance you will find something as there is lots to look at...

Daniel R · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2001 12:00 am

i worked on the castle. It's so difficult to add the right amount of detail. I'm not happy with it. What do you think about it ? Maybe some suggestions ? Some help would be very appreciated. I don't know how to make it look right and i am frustrated with it.

I put the castle on a little "mountain" (i don't know how to say it better in english). I gives it a more important-"dominating" aspect.

Shiro_tengu · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2001 12:39 am

danial R

Il est parfait maintenant. Je ne pense pas que vous �tes un psychopathe. Veuillez me pardonner, mon Fran�ais n'est pas tr�s bon.

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