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Chris · Posted: Tue May 22, 2001 9:33 pm

The pig has a substance in it's fat tissues which neutralizes all snake venoms.

I hear we are trying to figure out what does this so we can have it in our tissue, one less thing to worry about I guess

wayfinder · Posted: Wed May 23, 2001 2:44 am

isnt that a myth though? like the one that a duck's quack doesn't echo.

even if it's true.. won't be very successful i guess. sharks are immune to cancer and nobody has found out how to transfer that to humans yet

Chris · Posted: Wed May 23, 2001 5:40 am

not yet

Count Zero · Posted: Wed May 23, 2001 8:55 am

They tried to do that but then the sharks got really really smart and learned how to swim backwards and got really really big too and then they killed and ate a whole bunch of people like Samuel L. Jackson and some others working in this huge laboratory under water. Or was that a movie?

v1510nAry · Posted: Wed May 23, 2001 9:11 am

Nah count Zero, not a movie but...
Putting Samuel L. Jackson as a big name in the movie would be quite silly as he dies around 20 minutes into the "so called movie"

I know the cure to cancer and your no getting it so nerrr !!!

Chris · Posted: Wed May 23, 2001 9:28 am

I know the cure for cancer too

don't get it

A.Buttle · member Member # Joined: 20 Mar 2000 Posts: 1724

Oh, that's very clever Chris....

Impaler · Posted: Wed May 23, 2001 1:19 pm

This is all arbitrary. Animals are allergic to some other animals, and other animals aren't. Sharks don't get cancer because they're so primitive. They have a very simple body structure, comparatively. They go through enough body tissue that cancer is almost always taken care of, if not just discarded out into the sea.

Just because we extract the right enzyme from the pig, and manage to intertwine it with ours, who's to say that that won't kill us? Who's to say that it'll work? We're not pigs. We're built completely differently, mammalian or not. Our cells interact and duplice differently from pigs'.

They also just extracted a photoluminescent gene from a jellyfish and stuck it in a monkey. He doesn't glow in the dark, he doesn't live in water. He just has an extra gene. The same thing will happen with us.

Chris · Posted: Wed May 23, 2001 2:04 pm

We are different then animals..but then again, we are taking their organs successfully.

It's all about the dna structure. Once we figure out how to change that, we are golden on advancing our abilities.

[ May 23, 2001: Message edited by: Chris ]

SpiralEye · Posted: Wed May 23, 2001 2:41 pm

Impaler-I'm with you on this one, man.

Chris--I definitely don't think advances in abilities would happen through genetic mainpulation. Nope, never. THere's always a side-effect that isn't thought of, that's missed. Pros and cons. I think humans as a species are as physically *there* as they'll ever be.

Impaler · Posted: Wed May 23, 2001 2:54 pm

I believe we've reached the next stage in evolution: technology. As man grows and makes machines more and more common, they become more and more a part of us. We've basically become very independent of our bodies. We no longer have to be anywhere in person to have anything done for us. We're not quite at full out machination, but we're in the twilight, the nexus. As technology progresses further and faster, we'll basically become a super-intelligent species, free from the burdens of environment.

We ARE THE STROGG!!! @!!@#!@ E!!

Chris · Posted: Wed May 23, 2001 2:57 pm

Of course there are side effects. Getting the flu shot has side effects too, but our body adapts to it.

I am not saying that DNA manipulation will be easy, but I think (my belief) that it will cure many diseases that we never thought it could, sortof like how we never thought that computers would be sitting on our desks this millinium.

Affected · Posted: Wed May 23, 2001 3:20 pm

Didn't the human genome project find far too few genes in the human body to support the traditional "one gene -> one protein" doctrine? There's a lot more going on that determines what we become than just genes.

Impaler · Posted: Wed May 23, 2001 3:57 pm

Affected: Exactly. we only have around 34,000 (or 43,000?) genes, where as they've discovered that we have thousands of proteins per gene. For perspective, fruit flies have 27,000 genes, yet are about as far away from humans as any creature could get. That means something else is making us what we are, and that something is a protein. Forget the Human Genome Project. That's so 2000. The next big thing will be the Human Proteome Project, where now we have to crack through millions upon millions of proteins and see what they do to us.

Count Zero · Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 6:22 am

And you can toss the Human Proteome Project out the window as well, because after that they'll (try to) find out what controls the proteins that control the genes that control (etc.)...

I do feel these are all steps in the right (such as the concept 'right' exists) direction. I agree with Chris and look at all this (pseudo)medical progress with a vague sense of optimism.

And come on, they've transplanted an extra head on a dog for chrissake. What will those wacky scientists come up with next? I'm giddy with excitement.

Bishop_Six · Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 7:10 am

One of these days I'm gonna get a duck and go in a tunnel with it...

geoman2k · Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 9:48 am

quote:
Originally posted by Count Zero:
They tried to do that but then the sharks got really really smart and learned how to swim backwards and got really really big too and then they killed and ate a whole bunch of people like Samuel L. Jackson and some others working in this huge laboratory under water. Or was that a movie?

heheh

v1510nAry · Posted: Thu May 24, 2001 9:54 am

The evil talk of BIOLOGY aaarggghhhh so evil !!!!