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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2001 10:30 am     Reply with quote
This was supposed to be my draw club contribution, but I got stuck on the shadows and the shoes... now I'm looking for help. Other critique is accepted and/or appreciated as well.



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2001 10:42 am     Reply with quote
I'm not familiar with everyones style yet so I'm not sure what your after, I think the shadows look pretty good. If it was mine I would mess things up a bit, maybe you've drawn yourself into a corner by focusing on the details too much too soon. Try making a lot of marks in the wall and ground to free yourself up a bit, maybe some more colors and values in the clothing and skin. I think the face looks great and the anotomy is believable. Don't worry too much. Looks good so far.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2001 10:46 am     Reply with quote
One other thing is that you can make a shadow more coonvincing by diffusing or making it blurrier where the object that casts it gets further away, look at the arm and gun shadow. And maybe the sky is so heavy and intense that it becomes distracting to the image. This is kind of an ambitious image, good luck.



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2001 2:12 pm     Reply with quote
Composition help...


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2001 6:49 pm     Reply with quote
Man, Badgers, did you had to do this? I was asking a simple question and all you do is redrawing my picture. I'm sure you will get lots of ohhhs and ahhhs with it ok... I couldn't find no sleep before I at least tried to make it better... I know I didn't make it, but it's late and I can hardly keep my eyes open. More will follow tomorrow

So there you are:


Please give me critique and ignore Badgers.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2001 7:51 pm     Reply with quote
too friendly colours for a war scenario - you don't produce the mood the pic should deliver; at least I ecpect a certain mood of war pics.....maybe you can explain the bakground?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2001 12:47 am     Reply with quote
Thanks so far. The background isn't done at all... behind the wall there will be a hill with other objects and the wall itself will get marks and detail...

I really appreciate your help, but I more wanted to know where the cast shadows should fall, since I'm not that familiar with lightning.

others?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2001 3:11 am     Reply with quote
The light that hits the wall and the character now looks brighter that the lights on the background.
I thought if it would be a desert scene at first before I saw the background.

but its coming along well otherwise.. just keep working on that one :]

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2001 11:38 am     Reply with quote
hey, pic looks realy fine!

in addition to the comments of the others i think the perspective of the guy and the two walls behind him do not fit together... you should check your vanishing point.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2001 5:40 pm     Reply with quote
first post =D

anyway i was looking around here, now im no artists, and don't know atonomy that well but i think his right foot is off.

not sure though, i donno even if my redid thing is correct.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2001 9:40 pm     Reply with quote
You've done alot to darken the foreground but the background still looks like a nice field to frolic in. Personally I don't think grass jives with war scenes, its too 'beautiful' or something. That's personal, and it can be made to look good if done right, but bright tones in the grass is just too bright. Maybe overcast rainy skies would work, I really don't know what I'm talking about go with you feelings but if you think of the scene as joyful as you can, and you don't see war then it needs to be more 'dramatic.' And if it's supposed to be heroic battle not war then I think you soldier need to be a little less pissed-off looking, talk about Officer Hardass(I love the face, but it's not steroetypical hero stuff)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2001 12:23 am     Reply with quote
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Solitaire: Well, it's not supposed to be war. He's supposed to be something like an IGI-guy. He just bombed some powerplant, but was spotted by the enemy and ran away. Now he hides behind a tree, but why he has got that expression on his face I won't tell. ...not now... Thanks for your reply

Nex: I did! And I will!

Morphgfx: Welcome to the board. And thanks. Does it still look wrong?

It was supposed to be my draw Club pic.. but I'm too late. And it's far from finished
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2001 6:07 am     Reply with quote
Thanks! Interesting way to correct the wall-problem , but looks better this way. Environment is more convincing now. And the footsteps are cool
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2001 8:04 am     Reply with quote
I like the picture because it differs from other war / soldier pictures, Its like he is a p�art of hell in paradise ! Like it alot, but draw more details on the weapon, what kilnd of weapon is that by the way ?? Ak4 ?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2001 8:04 am     Reply with quote
I like the picture because it differs from other war / soldier pictures, Its like he is a p�art of hell in paradise ! Like it alot, but draw more details on the weapon, what kilnd of weapon is that by the way ?? Ak4 ?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2001 9:48 am     Reply with quote
I agree with Spiritual_Chaos. The image is kinda cool, I know it's possible to feel fear and anxiety on such a beautiful day, very worrying to say the least. So I think it's just fine.
Have you thought about putting a little bit of atmospheric perspective on those hills? I see you've done it with the distant ones but I think the closer ones need a little bit of a distance indicator.
Anyway I'm liking it

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