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Dennis Sedov · Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2002 10:27 pm

Hello. I have to do some 3d work for my next project but I want to replace some of the 3d geometry with matte paintings. I now how to draw pretty much and I dont have problems with lighting, but what I do have problem with is how to paint textures on mattes.
Is there some brush setups or some tricks to it. Im talking about somthing this guy did:

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Ian Jones · Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 6:01 am

Ermm.. good luck. It takes years of painting experience to do a good matte painting. Quick tip anyway... don't try to make it too 'real', matte painting is about getting an impressiona across, adhereing to the atmosphere of the rest of your film / 3d work. Textures, well sticking to the idea of an 'impression', the first thing to notice from all good matte painters is that when you actually zoom in on the brush strokes you will be surprised how incredibly simplified it is. Think about economy of line, shape, anything but over-rendering. The more you achieve an 'impression' of a particular texture, the more a viewers eye will inadvertantly fill in and do the work for you!

I don't know if that really helped but hey.. no one else had replied yet so your stuck with me.

ceenda · member Member # Joined: 27 Jun 2000 Posts: 2030

Ian has spoken... wisely...

Though I'd also say that 3D backdrops in films are often way too crisp. If 3D is your thing, then look at ways to diffuse and take out the sharpness of the 3D rendered work before going into matte work.

Ian Jones · Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:59 pm

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paint it via camera projections

What do you mean by that? I don't understand the technical specifics...

Dennis Sedov · Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 11:25 pm

Its just that for my next project I dont want to model some of the stuff but rather paint it via camera projections

Dennis Sedov · Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2002 2:51 am

Camera projection is a wonderfull technique to create pseudo 3d environment by th means of matte painting! What you do you create a rough geometry and sometimes just planes and then render the scene from your camera then paint it over in photoshop then project your image from the camera onto your scene. Then you can create another camera and move your camera around this - so now your matte painting is 3d background. This technique is widely used in the industry. I learned it from one of the shot from bicenenial man.
You can also check out some of the examples on www.hatchfx.com

Ian Jones · Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2002 3:08 am

Thx, I'll check it out and get back to you later...

eyewoo · Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2002 4:58 am

Dennis... WOW!!! Thanks for the hatchfx.com link. I hadn't seen those matte paintings before... Absolutely supurb work!!!

Ian Jones · Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2002 11:46 pm

Where is the info? I had a quick look but never found any tutorial... but maybe I'm mis-interpreting your words.

Dennis Sedov · Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 6:27 am

yeah. There is no tutorial. There are couple screenshots for The One and Rexall music video that show geometry and then matte painting. I guess you can search the internet for that. Also you can go to www.visuraimaging.com and see some from becintennial man. Thats the site of the person who told me about this technique.

Leo · Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:24 am

A very common question, so it's quite hard to answer. Be straight.

Well if you take a close look at those shots from The One, you may notice some things. It's just like a wallpaper slapped onto geometry. And if you know how to draw, I didn't see any problem why you can't paint that wallpaper.