[Jolyon Meldrum]

Hi everyone. I would class myself as a relatively good artist, anything I come up with people seem to like. But my drawings always seem to be too... how do I explain it... still, there�s no much movement going on. I have a real problem with perspective as I haven�t been taught how to use it properly. I can draw interesting scenes but some things just dont look right. 2 point perspective ok I get that, then 3 and four?? how do I create a four point perspective image? also with bodies and the structures within them is there a way to apply perspective relatively well to them even though they are not square compliant shapes?? I�m going mad here as I can�t find books on them here and if I would they�d be in spanish. I would understand them but it would make my life easier if it was in my first language. Fuck... any help would be reeeeeeeeeeallly well recieved. Thanks!!!!

[eyewoo]

Like you, after 2 point perspective, I pretty much wing it...

Here's a page I found on google... Look half way down the page for the 4 point perspective discussion... Looks interesting. I didn't check it out too closely... It's in English...

The first half has a piece on how colors change as in the distance...

[ June 03, 2002: Message edited by: eyewoo ]

[Xysryc]

Ehm, where is the page?

[Catfish]

Merekat has a nice tutorial on perspective on her site. It's 'how to do it in Illustrator' rather than 'this is how perspective works', but it was good enough for me to figure it out from that.

[Ian Jones]

I feel for you.. I'm in exactly the same position (well actually ppl hate my work! but I want to learn perspective!!!.. jk's )

I have just bought another book about perspective. I stress another, because no matter how much I understand about perspective I simply just don't know how to use it! where to start, if the direction I'm heading in is going to work, and do I really need to tediously construct (spagetti mess).

I'll read through this new book I have. Hopefully it will help me, and once I figure it out I'll post a proof image and tell you how.

In the mean time I find its helpful to look at some sketches in progress. Some great ones are at: Drawthrough

[turnip]

scott mcdaniel

It is mostly a comic site but there is a rather nice and simplified tutorial on perspectives in the site.

[eyewoo]

oops... here it is... 4 point perspective, half way down the page...http://www.mauigateway.com/~donjusko/perspective.htm

[ June 04, 2002: Message edited by: eyewoo ]

[Jolyon Meldrum]

Hi guys thanks!!!

Eyewoo - Thanks for that page, pretty technical, but I suppose that's the meat nad potatoes of learning perspective.

Catfish - Awesome tutorial, nice explanation thanks!

Ian Jones - Had a look at those drawings, they're very nice, have a look at the link Catfish sent me, pretty useful.

Turnip - Thanks a lot had and look, pretty useful !

Thanks again all of you!! If we're having problems, lets see if we can get an expert to comment, I can see a spooge moment coming along... think we should ask for a quick bit of advice?? Thanks again.

[Ian Jones]

Yeah Merekat's tutorial is great. Using illustrator like that is such a good idea. Time and again with perspective I come across the problems of vanishing points outside the paper and also want to move a whole bunch and having to redraw! to think all the time there was such an easy solution. uugghh..

[Liser Studios]

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Originally posted by Ian Jones:
Yeah Merekat's tutorial is great. Using illustrator like that is such a good idea. Time and again with perspective I come across the problems of vanishing points outside the paper and also want to move a whole bunch and having to redraw! to think all the time there was such an easy solution. uugghh..

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what's wrong with having your vanishing points on the paper? I've always heard that the closer the vanishing points are, the more distorted it will be.
One time I went in my basement, taped down my paper, and put my vanishing points about 8-10 feet apart, and the zenith was about 5 or 6 feet up. If it was on the edges of the paper... it wouldn't have looked right.
Btw, I was using 3 point perspective for that pic (hence the zenith).

[Ian Jones]

Nothing wrong with it. Yes it makes your perspective distorted, but if thats the effect you need then its ok. I already understood that... !???

[jester1966]

Just a new site I found on perspective - have not checked it out myself, but might contain what you are looking for:

Perspective Tutorial

Birgit