[Cleoric]

I have both, and I just started using Painter7. I like the brushes, they are helping me with texturing, makes it easier for this noob, but when I open it back up in Adobe for other things that I don't know how to do in Painter, the colours are completely different!

Here's what I mean(Adobe on left, Painter on right):



Link

So is there anything I can do about this? Is this a program thing, monitor thing? Can anyone else even notice the difference?

Also crit the crappy image(if you want) that I've been working on off and on forever and just suck so much I can't finish(Ok, can't really see all of it, but just if you want )!

[Asurfael]

looks nice... but yea, the difference between colours is really noticeable. Are you sure you don't have some customized colour settings in photoshop? I've never experienced this problem (probably because when I work with painter I also finish in it, and when I work in photoshop I finish the image in that, so no need for me to import images), so I can't really tell.

[Cleoric]

Well, I know I haven't changed anything. And I'm the only one that uses my computer.

I started in PS7, the opened in Painter7, saved as PSD. Opened in both and that's what it looks like *shrug*

[Torstein Nordstrand]

It might be that you've been using watercolour layers or whatnot in Painter 7. From what I've seen so far, Painter's blending modes share name, but are not actually coded the same as the Photoshop versions. When you, as you say, imported that multilayered PSD into PS, PS interpreted Painter's blending modes through it's own version of those modes. Try flattening the Painter file before saving it to psd, then open it in PS. Might work...

Hope I was of any help!

[Jin]

Torstein's suggestion is partly correct, though each program has Composite Methods or Blending Modes the other doesn't have.

Take a look (URL below) at screen shots of Painter 7 Composite Methods and Photoshop 5.5 Blending Modes, along some comparison images done in Painter 7 using a Water Color variant, then opened in Photoshop 5.5. You'll see that the default Composite Method for Painter 7 Water Color Layers doesn't exist in Photoshop 5.5 and the images are quite different. They're closer to being the same when the Photoshop 5.5 Blending Mode is changed from the automatic Darken to Multiply, but still not the same.
http://www.pixelalley.com/sijun-forum/P7toPS5.5wc_lyr_mthd_mode_clr_cmprsn.html

This scenario is only one of a zillion that could come up, so a lot of experimenting will probably be your best teacher when it comes to taking Painter images into Photoshop. Sometimes things just get lost in the translation.

When you need to "flatten" an image in Painter, the quickest and most accurate way is to first save your file as a Painter RIFF to retain Painter specific information, then use File > Clone and save that file in whatever format Photoshop understands, PSD, TIFF, JPG, etc.

There are other things that can be done to make Painter 7 and Photoshop colors appear more the same. I can't recall the details but this issue has been discussed many times on the various Painter lists and newsgroups and I've seen solutions found.

You might try posting your question, along with software versions, complete system specs, and details of what brushes, Layers (Layer types), etc. you were using to the following:

Painter list at Topica.com http://www.topica.com/lists/painter-list/

Corel Painter Support Newsgroup
Add Server: cnews.corel.ca
Subscribe to: corel.graphic_apps.painter

.. and ...

alt.fractal-design.painter

I think you'll find some helpful responses if you supply enough details.

Good luck!

[Cleoric]

Wow. Ok thanks for the info. Yeah I used watercolours n' stuff. Thanks a bunch

[Jin]

Cleoric,

Another thing you're probably going run into is attempting to merge Water Color Layers
or other Layers set to Composite Methods and finding yourself stumped.

In Painter the term/Layers section menu option for merging Layers is "Collapse".

First save your file as a Painter RIFF. Then, if you no longer need to
retain any Layers to work on the image later, one quick way is to make a
Clone of the image (File > Clone).

Otherwise, here are some instructions that may help :
______________________________

Currently, Water Color Layers and other Layers set to Composite Method
Gel can't be collapsed (the Collapse option is greyed out).

The Collapse option is greyed out for Water Color Layers because there
was an issue with it in the initial Painter 7 release causing corruption
and other unwanted results. This issue will be reopened for Painter 8.

In the meantime, here's the workaround:

1. Select the Water Color Layers and Group them.

2. Expand the Group (click the small triangle to the left of the Group
name).

3. Highlight one of the Water Color Layers and, from the Layers section
menu, choose Convert to Default Layer.

4. Repeat Step 3 for the remaining Water Color Layers.

5. Notice that these Default Layers are still in Composite Method Gel
and the Collapse option is still greyed out.

6. Change the Composite Method from Gel to Default for each of the
Default Layers in the Group.

7. Click the small triangle to the left of the Group name to close the
Group.

8. With the Group highlighted in the Layers list, from the Layers
section menu, choose Collapse.

9. You may want to return the single Layer to Composite Method Gel
to get the original Water Color Layer effect.

This method, adapted for generic use, is from Corel Painter Program
Manager Tanya Staples. Step 9 is added by me.

[ June 02, 2002: Message edited by: Jin ]