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wolfchick
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 2:39 pm     Reply with quote
howdy!

I don't really post too much because you guys scare the hell outta me.
But I wanted to ask...

Do you guys use live/real models for your drawings? Or do you just grab something out of your head and sketch it. Or do you look in books or magazine's for the right pose?
I'm just curious because I model for my own stuff and I wonder if people ever wish they could get someone to pose for them.

I use to have a huge collection of Playboys that I'd run to for ideas. But now with my digital I can get the exact pose that I need with no flipping through pages.

I hope this post is not too annoying for you pros who get tons of questions.
Thanks!
wolfie
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 3:43 pm     Reply with quote
I had the opportunity to draw from models in school, and I really really miss it. I strive every day to get my anatomy strong enough that I can someday not miss having a model.

But everything I've done since I left school has been done sans model; I might strike a pose quickly so I can get the feel of where my body is, but since I don't have a camera (yet) that's the only way I can do it, short of picking up one of those wooden referance things. However, I really don't want to use one of those, simply because I want to be able to visualize a figure so well all I have to do is draw what I see.

But the short of it is: I loved having models available, and I someday hope not to miss that.
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Malachi Maloney
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 3:52 pm     Reply with quote
Nothing beats a real model.
I use 'em all the time.


Take it easy,
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Kaete
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 9:41 pm     Reply with quote
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But now with my digital I can get the exact pose that I need with no flipping through pages.


You mean you're using a digital person (ie, Poser) to work out poses?

While this is a good resource, I stongly urge you to not use it too much. CGI is still not quite *there* when it comes to the human form. The cheaper models that we have access to are even worse. So if you depend on them, you pictures might become very stiff and unnatural looking.
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Steven Stahlberg
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 10:49 pm     Reply with quote
I took her to mean she used a digital camera to use herself for reference. [sigh] Wish I could do that...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2002 11:41 pm     Reply with quote
i use the mirror a lot of times, mostly for faces. that's a blessing and a curse, because both girls and guys faces have some resemblance to my own. i'm also taking a figure drawing class at school, and i sometimes use gesture drawings for pose ideas or more developed [5 min or more] drawings for anatomy. i rarely use photos, mainly because they're too 'posed'.. so many of them are models, and models seem to do the same kind of poses over and over again.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 1:41 am     Reply with quote
yeah I'd much prefer a model to a page in a magazine... feels like all too often you end up compromising the pose a little just because you can't find the right pose for reference (which probably isn't a bad thing when you're just starting out like me)
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wolfchick
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 9:16 am     Reply with quote
Thanks for the input guys.

Kaete~ I mostly sketch from the digital pic.Like Steven said~ using myself for reference. I have a hard time drawing out of my head. I have to see it before I can draw it. And being able to create to pose that I want saves tons of time!

Nova~that's what I discovered also. You can never find that certain pose in a mag because they all are the same.

Strata~I totally agree. Having to tweak the pose a little here and there and then I end up messing it all up.

Another thing that I'm able to do is wear the clothing that fits the scene. Like a dragon woman that I'm working on now. I wore the thigh high boots, fringed top, leather skirt and held an awesome sword. This worked like a charm! I didn't have to figure out what fringe would look like on the body or how the sword gleamed because it was already there. Plus it's so fun getting all dressed up!

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[ April 02, 2002: Message edited by: wolfchick ]
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TeTsUo
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 11:22 am     Reply with quote
http://aswexpress.com/posefilebooks.html

I use these. Its impossibly hard to find the right pose or variation of poses that you want. When I found these books I knew I found something VERY USEFULL. I have two right now but would like to get the whole series...as they have different themes to each(lighting, domestic activities, two models, sports, etc.)
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Kaete
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2002 11:17 pm     Reply with quote
Ah, well if you're using an actual person that's totally fine.

Digital figures just tend to look a bit like puppets. With photos of a real person, that's much less of a problem.
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