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Tarandon member
Member # Joined: 19 Nov 2001 Posts: 152 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 7:25 am |
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I have been browsing and posting on this forum for several months now, and I find rather disturbing the amount of sleep some of you people seem to be getting. Or should I say the lack of sleep. I see people pulling all nighters, going to sleep at 6 am, basically just wreaking havoc on their internal clocks and it's not a healthy practice. Why then does it seem to produce rather interesting pieces of artistic composition? Are these sleepless wonders bordering hallucination when they concoct these masterpieces? Perhaps I should start negating sleep in the name of my art. Any thoughts? |
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Queezy member
Member # Joined: 15 Dec 2001 Posts: 56 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 10:13 am |
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I was actually pondering this very same thing about a week ago. For several nights I had stayed up, and in the mornings would find myself drawing stuff, and everything came out way better than stuff I do while my nerves are still calm. |
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Binke member
Member # Joined: 27 Oct 1999 Posts: 1194 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 10:26 am |
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ever heard of timezones?
although I kinda agree, I seem to have painted most of my "good" pieces on the night/mornings, when im the most tired or whatever.
[ January 21, 2002: Message edited by: Binke ] |
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Probus member
Member # Joined: 28 Jul 2001 Posts: 179 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 10:32 am |
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I tend to become more productive and especially more creative when i had i had a night of no sleep. weird isn�t it.
[ January 21, 2002: Message edited by: Probus ] |
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suny member
Member # Joined: 13 Nov 2001 Posts: 82 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 11:04 am |
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Night is calm, no people, no sounds, no light, only you in front of your screen, some good music, your headphones...
I work well between 10pm and 4am.
beacause i'm more focused on my work, i guess.
S. |
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Liser Studios member
Member # Joined: 14 Oct 2001 Posts: 215 Location: Butler, PA
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 11:09 am |
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yeah, I would have to say I do better work late at night/early morning.
i've noticed i do my best work between 11:00-3:00 i usually go to bed after that though, i get too tired and i would like to wake up at noon. If i stay up later then i'll wake up around 1-2, and my day is a waste. but that may change when i'm older, since you need less sleep when you're in your 20's and 30's.
then i can work until 3, then wake up at 9 or 10, and work some more! that would be so cool. lol. |
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balistic member
Member # Joined: 01 Jun 2000 Posts: 2599 Location: Reno, NV, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 11:10 am |
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I seem to be most artistically productive between maybe 3 in the afternoon and midnight. I seldom do artwork in the morning, or really late at night. |
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morphgfx member
Member # Joined: 22 Dec 2000 Posts: 54 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 11:30 am |
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and I thought i'm weird or something...
i'm usually most creative in the later evening/at night/early morning... only problem is i can't work when i'm too tired :|... i hate it to lie in bed with the coolest ideas in my head, but beeing to sleepy to get up... argh... maybe i should sleep more in the afternoon... or in school... |
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Tarandon member
Member # Joined: 19 Nov 2001 Posts: 152 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 11:57 am |
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I'm well aware of timezones
I'mm referring to posts where the speaker says "I spent 17 straight hours on this" or "Here's a little doodle I did last night when I couldn't sleep".
It all just seemed a bizzarre trend to me is all. Nice to see I'm not the only one out there. |
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roundeye member
Member # Joined: 21 Mar 2001 Posts: 1059 Location: toronto
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 1:43 pm |
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i draw better tanked, which i allways found weird. as well as pantsless. |
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lalPOOO member
Member # Joined: 12 Jan 2002 Posts: 399 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 3:11 pm |
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I tend to draw well from around 11:00 to 3:00 at night because of the lack of disturbance, and also because I don't know what I'm doing all the time so sometimes i stumble across new techniques. |
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Lunatique member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 3303 Location: Lincoln, California
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 11:29 pm |
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When I was younger(from age 13 and on), I thought I was the only weirdo who was a night owl. I would stay up and paint, write, compose music..etc, and the later it got, the more inspired/excited I was.
Well, it's still like that 16 years later. And in these 16 years, I've discovred most creative people are similar.
I used to analyze the cause of this late night phenomenon, and this is what I came up with:
1)no distraction(all the stores are closed, all your friends are asleep, and there's nothing good left on TV).
2)You have a whole day's worth of inspiration and thoughts to channel into your creative stuff(things you saw on the street, ideas in your head, conversations you've had with people, films/TV shows you watched, music you listened to..etc etc).
3)The "I shouldn't be doing this" syndrome. You KNOW you should go to bed(growing up to "It's bed time! Go to sleep! You have school tomorrow!"), and yet you WANT to stay up because it's "wrong" to stay up late. You always think, "Just 15 more minutes, then I'll go to sleep," but 15 minutes turns into another hour....
4)Isolation. At that hour, you feel you are in your own little world, and nothing can touch you. Only you can understand yourself, and only you can create the things you truely love.
well, that's the case for me. |
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PixHortHiT member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 268 Location: The part of sweden closer to hell
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 11:43 pm |
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I dont really do it on purpose, when I stay up all night drawing. Its just like I fall in some kind of trance, loosing touch with my surroundings, all sound except those emanating from my computer dies away, the longest time I think was about five or six hours completely cut off from the outside world, of course, these things only happens when I�m at a LAN-party... |
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Mr. T member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 2001 Posts: 516 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2002 12:50 am |
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same as Suny... i can't do much over day |
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morphgfx member
Member # Joined: 22 Dec 2000 Posts: 54 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2002 2:22 am |
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hey Lunatique that absolutely fits me too, especially point 1 and 4.
by the way, Frazetta mostly worked at night as well. |
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Jesta78 junior member
Member # Joined: 11 Jan 2002 Posts: 27 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2002 2:34 am |
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I agree, I work the best from 11pm to 4am. I mean, I had a big project to do and I got up early in the morning to do it. I didn't even get a good idea until 1am in the morning. I definitely think I need to be isolated with no distractions to create anything, maybe an insane asylum would be perfect for me, my friends and family already think I'm crazy for staying up so late every night, lol . |
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ken member
Member # Joined: 30 Jul 2001 Posts: 256 Location: adelaide, au
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2002 7:01 am |
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quote: i draw better tanked, which i allways found weird. as well as pantsless.
well. i'm never going to look at your pictures the same again...
every holidays between uni terms i usually stay up to 5-6am, like now. last summer when i was working on a project i hit 10am as deadline approached.
lunatique has it pretty much nailed. kinda sad that we can't be more social or functional while being creative
-Ken |
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Dekard member
Member # Joined: 01 Nov 2001 Posts: 274
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2002 7:37 am |
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r-mode.
While in r-mode you lose all track of time, while you are in the 'zone'. Most artists get into this zone and can be in the day/evening or whenever. Most of us probably US based don't get off work until 6 or so and work on art late into the evening, and lose track of time. Is my view. |
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gekitsu member
Member # Joined: 25 Jun 2001 Posts: 239 Location: germany
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2002 7:54 am |
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well, as long as it's day, everyone is usually in stress of job, school, life etc... at the night, it is quiet, one is alone. imo, that's the right time to therapy oneself by drawing.
one thing even more weird is: i made my best drawings when i was sad as hell and didn't want to live anymore... |
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a_sh member
Member # Joined: 04 Oct 2001 Posts: 149 Location: Uppsala, Sweden
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2002 10:34 am |
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I too draw best at night.
Although it's not all good. Last year I've managed to destroy my internal clock totally. I'm no longer capable of keeping up a normal day-rythm (or what's it called in english). :/ It has caused some serious damage to my results in school, as well as other stuff.
Anyway, I read somewhere that there are more alfa-waves in the brain when you are sleepy. Alfa-waves has been shown to promote creativity, so there seems to be some scientific reason behind the night-owl-syndrome among artists |
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jabber member
Member # Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 235 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2002 11:59 am |
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my ex-gf who is a psychologists told me once, (when I asked the same question) was that sleep deprivation slowly shuts down your logical part of your brain, your left side, and the right side, the creative side over compensates trying to get into that "dream" realm so your brain can relax, kick back can catch a good dream flick.
if you cant get to that dream place when you sleep, you've got problems. its also been documented that people who dont get to that dream place, can eventually go nuts after long peroids of non-dreamless sleeping. They also are just plain cranky. reality and fantasy blur, and the next thing you think your a goblin saving the whale princess when your really just a naked freak runing around the mall.
just one possible answer. i embellished a bit. |
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Kaete member
Member # Joined: 07 Nov 2001 Posts: 214 Location: North Carolina, USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2002 10:25 pm |
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It's not that insomniacs make better artists...
Artists just make great insomniacs.
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egerie member
Member # Joined: 30 Jul 2000 Posts: 693 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2002 8:59 pm |
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Well, I used to make my best works during the day or the evening while in college... Was sleeping at least 6 hours a night.. The inspiration was overflowing etc.
Now that my sleeping hours are completely wonky, I can't paint anymore.
I don't think crativity is solely due to the sleeping patterns but on how you psyche yourself in the 'r-mode' like Dekard pointed out (been reading some Betty Edwards lately?). Of course, going more than a few hours without sleep can unbalance your hormones cocktail and perhaps help you fall more easely in that r-mode.
0,02c |
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MiNdInK junior member
Member # Joined: 25 Feb 2001 Posts: 5 Location: Bridgeport, Nebraska
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2002 9:33 pm |
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Yea I would have to say I am an amazing artist when it's late into the night, it's like I'm in my own fantasy world and I can draw from it. |
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Ian Jones member
Member # Joined: 01 Oct 2001 Posts: 1114 Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2002 9:44 pm |
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Count me in too.
I always have these really cool ideas late at night, and when I goto bed I get so many images whirling around in my head that I can't get to sleep. I usually read to try and tire my eyes out, and by propping myself up on my arm and reading lying down, it also helps to get me really tired. |
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spooge demon member
Member # Joined: 15 Nov 1999 Posts: 1475 Location: Haiku, HI, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2002 12:55 am |
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morning is for sleep! everyone knows that... |
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jr member
Member # Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 1046 Location: nyc
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2002 7:25 am |
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i'll sleep when i'm dead. |
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glody member
Member # Joined: 02 Dec 2001 Posts: 233 Location: NYC
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2002 9:16 pm |
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no sleep is very bad for the body/mind/and anything else you have....haha...i am.... in fact an insomniac i do find that i draw better at night to early morning....and ive also realized that if i keep this up im going to be living a very short life
as is everyone in this post
haha....take your vitamins!!!
[ January 26, 2002: Message edited by: glody ] |
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lalPOOO member
Member # Joined: 12 Jan 2002 Posts: 399 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2002 9:41 pm |
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meh, I'm still young, I'm hoping that before it can really affect me physcially they'll devolp a cure for not sleeping heh heh heh.... |
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Malachi Maloney member
Member # Joined: 16 Oct 2001 Posts: 942 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2002 10:55 pm |
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I paint best between the hours of about 10pm and 5 am, when it's real dark and quite out. I don't qualify as an insomniac though, because I do sleep. Just not at night.
M |
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