[J-D Leon]

read the 1st paragraph first.!!

hi everyone. there is something i really want to say about lord of the ring.
in this movie. what is the percentage of digital graphic is incoperated in this movie?
I see alot of digital 2d, 3d art involved
which is really amazing. sometime i tried to figure out what is 2d and 3d and reality in the movie. it seems to me it is imposible to make some backgroud. so i think it is fake. but how could they do that? a picture like that big could take atleast 100 hours to finish..... and not to metion the great struture inside the cave.


but a 3 hours movie seems to me isn't a 3 hours long movie. maybe it is because there is only The tower, snow mountain, the tone, elf waterfall sense. doesnt seems to enough for me. sucks to be starwars. sucks to be George nofukz. why the heck he make the 1st episode like 1.5 hours long only.?
and takes like 2 year to make the second damn short movie. shame on him.!!!

[Quasar]

Ehh in starwars deffense LOTR as mind blowing as it is only had a few hundred effects shots and starwars has a few thousand. LOTR is a better film showing very well that effects dont a good film make

[dave_baer]

Well, being a student of special-FX for film and television, i have to disagree that LOTR was mind blowing. Although impressive, it wasn't mind blowing to me. There were a lot of bad compositing and lighting issues in it as well as perspective issues. For instance, when Gandalf and bilbo first meet, Bilbo is a bit more than waist high to Gandalf. But when they are in Bilbo's house sitting at the table, Bilbo is little more than knee high to Gandalf.

As for the cave and other "impossible to build" settings, they were digitally produced. And although well built digitally, they were poorly composited with the live action. Seems to me they should have spent more time on post production rather than pre-production.

And as for the story.. well... since it is based on the book, you already knew the story. So you can't really compare it to a film with a whole new story line. Since you know the story of LOTR, then you watch the movie more for it's special fx. But with Star Wars, you are paying attention to the whole movie.

As for the time involved to make the film and the length of the film... I think LOTR could have effectively told the same story in less time. Comparing it to The Hobbit, which is only about an hour long, I think LOTR was more dragged out. A lot of stuff in it was unnecessary, like the long trip down the river where nothing happened. The story is only as long as it needs to be. For instance, a Hollywood script need only to be 90 pages long, each page equaling 1 minute. So a 90 page script will basically be a 90 minute movie. That's 1.5 hours. Any more than that, without a good story, will be drawn out and become boring. Any less and you feel like there should be more to it. To be honest, I was unhappy with the way they ended LOTR. Since the movie was so long, I expected there to be more to it than that. The ending was disappointing.

And character-wize? Well, I simply just don't get how a group of gentle, peace loving Hobbits could defeat an army of war trained demon fighters and Orcs. Hobbits are about 3'6" and those big Orcs were at least 6' tall and muscle bound as heck! Explain that one...

[Icannon]

lotr rocked!

[Jaysin]

dave_baer, what movie did you watch where the "peace loving Hobbits could defeat an army of war trained demon fighters and Orcs"? That never happens in the movie and I'm pretty damn sure it doesn't happen in the books.

I think at the end of the movie where the two hobbits ran screaming at the large orcs only to be picked up and carried off helplessly would be the exact opposite of what you just described.

[Naz]

I just came home from watching the movie.. and it definitely is one of its kind. I must say, I haven’t read the book so I did not know what was going to happen but I enjoyed the film very much (reading the book after the film.. that sounds like a good plan =)
there were so many breathtaking scenes and were well accomplished. I couldn’t spot that much of composition errors, obviously you sometimes could spot what was cg and what was not but it was not destroying the illusion (or even touching) it at all.
the only downside was (besides the one point I thought I had hallucinations of Matrix), the last half hour really felt a tad long and the end of the first part was rather unexpected. In retrospect, maybe a narrative voice from the off (as at the beginning) would have prepared me for the coming end.. (but that is just me maybe


(and an other thing. I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw H.R Giger sit down a few seats to the left one row in front... boff..

[wayfinder]

if you already found the film a bit long...

dont read the book


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