[Borstj]

*hides in his flameretardant bunker*
I've been around this forum for a while now and it has been a learning and somewhat inspiring time.... BUT!!

what the most people make up for in "skillz" they lack in orginality.
If u see a painting its one of these things;

1.nude/semi- nude chick with weapons
2.nude/semi -nude muscular man with weapons
3.an orc or the likes of such with weapons
4.sci-fi with weapons
5.fantasy with weapons (beginning to see a pattern here)

This have been bugging me massively cannot people DO something else than the above, of course there is exceptions, but the majority almost never strays far from the named topics.
So please couldn't we have a week when people got banned if they posted something UNoriginal(a little harsh i admit but u get the point). Oh well, hope this thread comes alive seeya

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[SporQ]

of course they can draw/paint other things, but it's the subjects they love, so why should they paint something else? i agree, that it's good to learn different things, but i dont see the harm in letting people draw subjects they enjoy

[Dr. Bang]

why waste all the skill painting a box while you can paint a beautiful naked chix or a futuristic weapon.

[Enayla]

This is actually something I get thrown in my face all the time. Not that I only draw chicks with big guns, or big guys with even bigger guns - but rather because I never do.

I don't enjoy, or particularly even like, pictures of those things. They aren't interesting to me. But they're obviously interesting enough to a whole lot of people - or they wouldn't be drawing these things.

I say: let people draw what they want to draw. It's their choice, their work, and their soul. There's nothing as annoying as being forced to draw things you don't like the least - and it usually shows in your paintings, too, when it's a subject matter you don't enjoy. Maybe we would all be better off if we could paint or draw all the different things that exist out there... or that only exist in our minds... but that's simply not how it is.

I draw because I love to draw, not because I love to draw what people want me to draw. There are people who enjoy what I do, and there are people who find it utterly boring. That's just how it is. For every person who doesn't like a girl with huge hooters and a bombastic gun, I'm pretty sure there's someone who loves it. Same thing goes with most stuff. Leave it be - if it's well done, and if the artist enjoys what s/he is doing, then it's that person's business to draw and paint whatever s/he wants to.

We do not own the artists. Unless you are actually paying them to draw something, it's really no one's business but theirs what they spend their spare time doing.

Just my thought on the matter =)

[balistic]

I didn't take four semesters of figure drawing so I could paint people with clothes on!



Sometimes my head gets so far up my own ass with high-concept "fine art" thinking that it feels good to blow off steam and just do a silly, obvious, cheeseball image once in a while.

As for the appeal of naked girls holding weapons . . . well, its because they're just so naughty.

[Affected]

Actually, it was just today that it occurred to me that the only thing that may annoy me about a post here is lack of content. sloppy, or even lazy rendering doesn't bug me near as much as laziness in the idea phase. At least you can offer suggestions when you notice flaws in technique, but when there's no effort put into the message of the image (and personally, I think a message is very important. That, or successfully conveying an emotion or mood.), there's not much you can say, because if you tell someone to just draw different things, you'll just come off as an asshole. Probably rightly so, too. Oh well, I guess it's best to just move on and try to remember who's the "big guy with gun"-type of person.

[Borstj]

points taken....i'll try to explain a little further.

The thing is that everybody draws their knight standing in front of a dragon, why can't they evolve the idea do something that has a meaning i just get tired of the cold images with no real feel to them. Sure Balistic u can draw an image like that once in a while BUT ALL the time please.

The problem does not lie in the theme itself but the endless repeating of it, everybody does it all the time.

This is getting interesting. Oh well hope we can sustain this conversation a while more

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[labmonkey]

well...i agree. To a certain extent. One should always try different approaches and "ways". I dont care if you do a chick with huge guns once in a while, but if a person does nothing but chicks with huge guns then...that person...should try something new An interesting pic will always be...uhmm..."better" than a boring but technically wonderful pic. Thats my 2 cents.. maybe i should stop now before i say something i might regret.

[Socar MYLES]

Heh...I'm in an irritable mood today, and at this precise moment, it seems to me that no matter WHAT you draw, someone's going to hate it.

I always try to make my images tell a story, convey a mood, or communicate an idea. I paint about all sorts of things--hate, fear, greed, scary legends, weird fairy tales...

...but there are always people who see only rats.

If I had a dime for every time someone commented or e-mailed me with something to the effect of "What's with all the rats?", or "You draw too many rats", I'd be rich.

If pressed for comment, I'd probably say that it's not always WHAT you paint, but how you paint it. A painting of a knight slaying a dragon might be done in any number of ways--the standard shining armour, red dragon, white-hot fire; a more contemplative piece in greens and blues, with the knight giving the dying dragon last rites; a nasty, grotty piece in mouldy browns and grays, with a craven knight striking down a baby dragon.... (Hm. That last one sounds like something I would paint.)

Ah, well. Nothing new under the sun. I'm probably not the only rat artist, anyway. Maybe I should branch out into knights and dragons. I think I did a knight once...but I forgot the dragon. Oops.

[SporQ]

heh, i did the dragon, but forgot the knight

p.s. i love your rats socar, im always trying to pick out the story in them. i think it's a nice approach instead of having humans to display the story. i really admire the challenge that you take with trying to do the same thing with rodents

[Highfive]

There's been loads of great looking work on the forums that have slipped into the depths with only 3 replies because it didn't interest anyone who was posting at the time.

The "chicks with guns" posts are always coming up, but they are admittedly much easier to crit than a mind-twisting Salvador Dali style painting.

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[eyewoo]

I've done a few dragons, chicks and faery-folk... but the last time was some years ago. Now I'm into portraits or real people and landscapes, traditional and not so traditional... and I post here quite a bit.

I do agree with Enayla -- do what you like to do, but I also see your point. It does get a bit tiresome, particularly the badly drawn ones, but I would also have to say that a well executed picture, no matter what the subject matter, will get my attention... at least for a blink or two... :/

[Borstj]

yes thats the point its not the theme itself (ok, to a small exstent) BUT its is the literal TIDAL wave of these pictures come in, there is just not any room for the more original art, people should take a minute and try to make a crit or two on the more "original" art, cuz usually all they get is a incredibly annoying "giger-ish or gigeresque" *shrugs* oh well

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[Jabberwocky]

I've done a car, and a rose, and a few other things.... and Socar MYLES I love your rats , but I don't think I've done a naked man with a big weapon... that's just asking for some kind of accident and I don't think I've done a naked chick either.