[dr . bang]

Here's my list of the hardest thing to draw

1.Human Face - god damn it, this is the hardest thing to draw, theres too much thing to know, and any thing inaccurate will result in a very weird face. Plus, there are so many variety too! Young, Old, sexy, pornstart look, asian, blalbalallalaalal too many.

2.Cloth Fold - I just dont understand how some one could do this. Are there any rule behind this?

3.Human Figure - errrrr, its as hard as drawing potrait except there's only three different variety available, fat, normal and skinny.


Other hard thingie

1. Color Theory - The color of the skin is the combination of the skin color and the blood under it........bla hard, and when sun light shines on to the skin, the color will be .........????? Sounds very challenging, doing it is even more difficult.

I coulnt think of any more right now cause there are so too choose from. So whats the hardest thing you find in the wonderful magical world of art?

[ November 01, 2001: Message edited by: dr . bang ]

[Snyper]

As far as life drawing...

1: Feet bother the hell out of me. I can never make them look the way I envision. It doesn't make any sense since I have no problem at all with hands.

2: I'll echo what you said about the human face as well, especially the eyes.

3: Cloth is ridiculously hard to draw accurately.

4: Hair... GAH!

That's all for now.

[Jezebel]

Argh... you said the "F" word!

Feet... I hate drawing feet.

I have a hard time drawing anything mechanical. Most of the time I use very organic strokes in my work, I like to swirl and smooth and all that. It's difficult to do a 180 and focus on hard rough edges and interlocking mechanical pieces.

[S4Sb]

Most hardest thing are legs.

[Jason Manley]

absolutely excellent topic!

I wonder if we can make a top ten list of the trouble areas presented and also provide solutions.

1 and definitley number 1 Hands...hands have a bazillion expressions and are a very complex form...

2 feet..well said...jezebel said that is one of the reasons she likes bouguereau..I have to agree..wow.

3 animals...there is just so much anatomy that has to be known that their construction could be a lifetime pursuit...

4 complex archetecture without 3d help...man oh man...getting perspective to look right and not feel stiff..sheesh.


5 is there anything that is not hard to draw? hehe


jason

[Mergatroid]

Top five desert island list:

1. Any kind of pasta with sauce!

2. Pineapples.

3. Palm trees.

4.Blood cells (white or red, take your pick).

5.Anything from my imagination.

[Snyper]

Very true, Jason. In college I was an architecture major, so I can relate to your comment about perspective and the like.

Often, our professor would have us design a house. I can't tell you how many sleepless nights I spent trying to come up with something original and like you said "non stiff". I think it mostly boils down to spending many many years studying the composition of what goes into making a structure. To this day I still haven't been able to fully grasp it. I need to go back to school.

[Steven Stahlberg]

You mean the hardest without looking at references right? Gotta be tigers for me, they always look like bears or something.
I guess I'm not very good at animals in general.

In the human body, for me it's the connection of the head to the body, especially in views where it's not immediately obvious, like in a sideview where you only see the shoulder, and the neck is quite twisted, know what I mean? I've also always had trouble with the 3/4 view, but I had a breakthrough the other day - I started with the eyes, and it worked better!
Another thing that troubles me is I have a bias to the right, but using a mirror can fix that.

[Anthony]

Non-organic stuff! Mechanical stuff! OUCH. I hate noodling all the mechanics in something, because unless I really understand the machine, I'm just half-@$$ing it, and it won't look right. Add to that incredibly complex perspectives, and I'm screwed from the start. Of course, I can model any mechanical object pretty damn fast in 3d. :]

[Nathan Marciniak]

Four Frustrations

1. Fabric
2. Foreshortened limbs
3. Fleshtones
4. Feet

Then again, I don't practice enough so it's not too surprising!

[Ahcri]

For me, I couldn't paint these things because I can never get enough practice.

1. Female face: I always got yelled at when I draw it, people just think I suck at it, so I started to shy away from it. So paint a portrait for a girl I like? Not a good idea.

2. Wrinkles on paper: when you form a ball with paper, its wrinkles are very complicated. But it's easy enough to practice, but it just tests your patience.

3. Rain: I just can't draw or paint rain without making it look like a scene from a Japanese anime.

[jeffery]

hehe i'm starting to see a few favourites (or un-favourites) popping up again and again. for me its:

1) foreshortened limbs
2) machinery (especially vehicles! - they've got their own set of proportion rules. blech!)
3) complex architecture

captain flushgarden uses a great technique with some of his machinery that i'd like to play around with, cuz i think it solves a lot of problems.. use the marquee tool to define the shapes, and then paint within the marquee. i think that could definitely help me. flushgarden's picture of his radio is a perfect example.

[Sumaleth]

1) eyes
2) eyes
3) eyes
4) self portrait (mainly have problems with the eyes)

I've been trying to paint a good self-portrait for about 3 years and still can't get it. (Here's the most recently attempt - http://www.sumaleth.com/sumaleth/images/rowfaceD.jpg) )

It's always the eyes that trip me up..

Row.

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[OpenCL]

I think the hardest thing to draw is hands,
they have so many wrinkles, and there are lots of joints, its just a major pain.

[lithius611]

i cant believe no one said water yet. there is so many things it can do and look like, and its hard as hell to make it look real (at least for me)

[c]

front view for faces, eyes in particular. 3/4 and profile views seem 10x easier than a dead on straight view, i dont know why!

[AfterShoxX]

I hate feet, 'nuff said

[Jezebel]

C - It's probably because of the symmetry... I have trouble with that as well. One side of the face usually droops or is lopsided. I'm also bad about making my eyes face two different directions. heheh

[nova]

4 me

[] foreshortened appendages .. especially feet. hands are doable but not feet .. oh gosh no..

[] foreshortened human figures.

[] architecture [when you're used to drawing people]

[] i'll have to agree with ... yea.. pasta. don't ever, EVER draw spaghetti with sauce unless you're being held at gunpoint to draw spaghetti with sauce. man i'm hungry.

[] fur.

[] realistic skin tones. but i'm learning. *looks at color theory book and John Singer Sargent book*

[] landscapes. it's really hard for me to draw/paint empty space and atomosphere

[Mr. T]

- Snow (i hate it)
- Water
- Landscapes in general
- Hands
- Clothing folds

and that's just of the top of my head

[Shaded]

I basically have trouble differentiating between living and nonliving subjects. As in, I find painting a woman challenging, but then doing the building behind her? Frustration at its finest.

[Briareos]

Anything people see ALOT of. Like, each other for instance. We know every little detail about how a human body looks and acts. So drawing it is freakin hard, cause people can pick out the slightest botch...

Cloth is a trick because of its complexity.

[Speve-o-matic]

Repetitive patterns on draping fabric has been my latest nasty experience.

What a nightmare to pull off convincingly . . . but it can be done with perseverance.

Lord Frederick Leighton was a masochist no doubt. Edmund Blair-Leighton too.

Example 1

Example 2

Example 3

I envy their patience and dedication.

- Steve

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