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faustgfx · Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2001 2:13 am

please for the love of whatever good there is left in this world tell me some/anyone here has a solution for the little issue of getting _hardware_ lock-ups when you have 32bit z-buffering and bus mastering turned on in win2k. =\ i'm doing a wild experimentation with the latest WHQL drivers as the legend on the streets says it SHOULD be stable with those.. but we'll see.

the interesting part is, when i have the 32bit z-buffering and bus mastering running, everything is rock stable if i am running an application or a game that uses directx excessively. go fucking figure - sometime in the next 2 minutes after i kill the application/game, *choketiltcease*. suck.

..not that i have anything against with playing Operation Flashpoint for 24 hours a day, but still.

it's apparently a well-known fact that amd+g450=hell, too. to quote Frost, when he found out that i'm on an AMD setup.. "lol."

[ October 02, 2001: Message edited by: faustgfx ]

BooMSticK · Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2001 2:51 am

hiya Faustie
Sorry to say I don't have a solution for your problem at all. To my knowledge the G450 should be very nice and do little harm. Don't know about the duron processor but I just recently got my self a nice T-Bird 1.333Ghz and the Elsa Gladiac graphics card. I can tell this setup is smooookin'!!! So just ignore Frost

AMD rulez and has made another 'was-intel-fanboy' turn to the other side... never looking back!
hope you find out soon what's wrong...
,Boom

faustgfx · Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2001 2:55 am

the g450+duron combo has caused others big problems too..

but yeah, i like the card - mainly for the dvdmax/dualhead crap. *pats wide desktop* i'm not whining.. except about the ghetto duron. it's at 1010mhz at the moment - i still haven't found the energy to overclock it - mainly 'cause i dread taking the heat sink off and putting it back on again.. =E that's a horrible horrible job. when i put it on.. well, let's just say that the dining fork left a nice dent on the motherboard when it .. . . slipped.

faustgfx · Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2001 3:16 am

hmm. well, the 5.71.blalblalbalbla WHQL drivers made a difference. it seems stable now - thank god.

the only downside is that there seems to be no way whatsoever to configure my second monitor's hz rate.. other than 60hz and 85hz. no other options. too bad it can't do 85hz at 1280x960x32bit.. it can do 84, but not 85. great. so now i'm stuck with 1280x960+1024x768x32bit desktop which means no unified desktop which means FUCK =[

oh well.

faustgfx · Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2001 3:25 am

fuck it. still crashing.

ambient-whisper · Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2001 4:03 am

i dont have a g450...nor a duron...
im not sure whether the g450 is an agp or pci card...but here goes..

i used to have similar issues with my hardware. what it ended up being was that my agp was set to 2x by default...but my motherboard only supported 1x. which caused lots of hang-ups.
the way i changed it was with a tweak app.

not sure if theres one for the g450...but you might want to check to see if the os is trying to push your hardware over the line.

Denim Atrisun · Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2001 4:47 am

Get an Intel!

Tweak-Utility: ..clicky..

Does 32bit Z-buffering makes that much a difference? I never turn it on. ::shrug::

Blind · Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2001 1:26 pm

Everyone I know running AMD's have a similar horror story, regardless of video card or drivers, etc. The common thread is always AMD. I almost bought one, now I'm glad I didn't.

Faust: When the Northwood gets released soon, the prices of the current crop of P4's are going to drop. Just a thought...

Dthind · member Member # Joined: 12 Dec 2000 Posts: 436

As you may be aware, the Win2k and the Matrox dual head do not like each other. Other than trying the alternate drivers available, you are probably out of luck. I ordered a few similar systems and found that it was the incompatability with the matrox drivers / hardware and Win2k...

Anyway, it has been awhile, how is the job thing going (this is actual concern, not mockery !!)

daz199 · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2001 11:45 pm

quote:
Originally posted by faustgfx:

..not that i have anything against with playing Operation Flashpoint for 24 hours a day, but still.

sweetass game
i'd play it more but my HD goes nuts after 10 minutes
i guess i need more RAM

LeChuck · Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2001 7:13 am

Hey faustgfx. You might try to E-mail someone at www.anandtech.com or see if they have a message board. Its a hardware site and they might be able to provide some insight.

KrassOtti · member Member # Joined: 07 Mar 2001 Posts: 112

Check your power supply.

I know that the normal AMDs are very power hungry and when they first came out a lot of cheap retailers put our comps with crappy power supply, making them crash if the AGP bus is heavily used [in 3D software]...

Make sure you have at least 300 Watts power supply. Depending on how much other crap you have in your comp you can also buy a 400 one :P I don't think they are very expensive and takes 15 minutes max to replace and connect everything to it...

faustgfx · Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2001 9:06 am

it's not that.

i have two cards in the box, a nic and the g450. the crash problems have appeared as of late.. maybe a month or two ago. in the beginning when i assembled the system i didn't have any problems.

i'm also suspecting one of the ram sticks, an ancient one, might be malfunctioning.. but that makes no sense, i've never seen a fucked ram stick cause lock-ups.

right now i've reached relative stableness on it.. ~20-25 hours or so, then bam. turned the 32 bit z buffering and bus mastering off again..

*scratches head*

*shrug*

Sterlin · Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2001 11:06 pm

I have the same set up as yourself, I've haven’t had your problems though. I was using two monitors but took one down because of space issues. You said you thought you might have bad memory, how many Megs do you have? I've got 1024megs of ram. I would like to know that you get everything back in order seeing how I may run into this myself and may need to know how you did it.

faustgfx · Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2001 12:46 am

well - i'm only guessing it could be jinxed ram 'cause that would be exactly what my luck is all about.. 448 megs right now. a 64 meg stick (ridiculously ancient), a 128 meg stick (ancient) and a 256 meg stick ('well aged') .. the chances of having physical damage on them is quite high. oh well.

*extraShrug*