[Freddio]

what are your comments habout Hogarth Dynamic Figure drwing

If I read it the whole way through will it help me? or will I just be confused?

If Ron Lemen reads this, im sure you may have something to say about it.

[ July 21, 2001: Message edited by: Freddio ]

[aquamire]

If I remember right, Ron kind of advised to not use Hogarth books, as his methods are more inventive than based on real life models. I cant stand how Hogarth's figures look.. the look all rubbery and stuff. Maybe you ought to try a different book? Of course, you probably know about Loomis. Dont stick to what those authors say, however. Learn the anatomy and proportions, and draw from life. I dont care if you draw yourself naked in the mirror, life drawing is the key. Hope this helps.

[MoleculeMan]

Holy crap i was literally just about to ask the same question! I've had a Hogarth Dynamic Figure Drawing book that i've been looking through for a bit. I don't find the figures to be that rubbery, but i do think his stuff's just a little to greco-roman for me. I mean its helpful to look at when you have no grasp of figure like i do, but i think a real person would be ideal.

[Derek]

Hogarth is one of those fellas that you have to have a good bullshit meter for in understanding figure drawing. I think his work best exemplifies really pushing attributes of a pose, but you have to be careful. As he stresses the extremes of poses and muscular dynamics, you have to bring an understanding to the game of what muscles aren't acting and reacting in such a pose. If you've got a lot of understanding of anatomy and drawing, his work is less frustrating, and may help you solve a problem or two, same with Bridgman. But I wouldn't look to him to learn from.
Try Stephen Rogers Peck, Andrew Loomis for a good combination of fact and application.

[jasonN]

I think that book is good for dynamic poses, hence the name. But if you really want to learn, just do lots of life and figure drawing. I never really liked learning from books anyway, actually, I think it's just because I hate reading

[burn0ut]

Stephen Rogers Peck books is great i recommend it ;D

[The Brat]

As I recall, the only thing I learned from that Hogarth book was how to draw feet a little better, generally. That section was actually quite helpful for me, and the part about hands wasn't bad, either. It's okay if you need help with dynamic perspective, I guess (i.e. being able to break human anatomy down into forms that're more simple to draw at odd angles), but I wouldn't use it as a drawing bible or anything...

whee.

[Freddio]

thanks for the info guys..

keep the posts comming

[Rinaldo]

use the search. Ron has talked about this in depth somewhere.

basicly I have learnt more from something like Jack Ham's Drawing the head and figure than all my hogarth anatomy books. but I still have them. just don't take them to seriously. some cool ideas and some bad. it is definitly not gospel tho=)

[J Bradford]

Hogarth isn't for everyone, someone people will say his teaching methods make no sense at all while others say they sleep with Hogarths books under their pillows. I personally have gained a lot of valuable knowledge from reading Hogarth, especially Dynamic Figure Drawing - is among my favorite.

[leif]

hey, me again

my personal opinion on this subject is such:

buy DYNAMIC LIGHT AND SHADE MEMORIZE IT SLEEP WITH IT READ IT ON THE SHITTER

none of his other books has the same information to the artist.

what i do is this

1. you want a cool pose for your naked woman asskicker of a character

2. screw around in your head for poses

3. then forget about it and go into poser and screw around in there. save the file, or print it (i usually import for reference, you can use it as a layer if you know how)
4. use whatever anatomy book you like, i do use hogarth, but the trick is to not copy him, but take the muscle formations, which are accurate, and shape them to suit your character.
5. get a friend or loved one to get in the same position and get a picture, peferably wearing similar clothes to what you have in mind (i call this the "ALEX ROSS METHOD") hehehehe
6. poser will also help with the lighting and shading

7. now screw around till you get something you like

8. grab a cool background from anywhere, (i use magazines like nat. geographic,etc.)
9. amaze your friends and go to work at marvel

hope it helps

hogarths not the best, but its not meant to be copied, its meant to be ASSIMILATED

keep the lead burnin, and i own a 21 inch trinitron (sorry)