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dalickwid aka Magdalena R
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2001 10:13 pm     Reply with quote
my friend loves traditional painting and wants to become one...he wants to be a comic artist...i told him either right now with enough skill or in the near future with enough skill and if the software is good enough that you won't be able to tell the difference between a digitally painted piece and a traditionally painted one...if the artist wanted their digital paintings to look traditional...he believes me and now he doesn't wanna be a traditional painter anymore...i feel bad because i was just giving him my opinion but i guess i sounded intelligent enough to convince him he just doesn't realize im actually a moron...so if you guys could post here and tell me why i am wrong and a fool id appreciate it so i can link him here and he can continue to do what he thinks he loves

he likes this guy a lot: http://www.crosswinds.net/~kendrix/ he says that he's not particularly religious about the fact that it's done in a traditional medium...or airbrushed...done without a computer basically...just that it looks nice and the subject matter appeals to him...

so basically im asking...can you produce pictures of the exact quality of a traditional painting with a computer? i personally think that either you can, or in the near future you will be able to...simply based on some of the stuff ive seen here...but anyways id like the opinions of some people with actual expertise in the area

thanks

-Brandon

[ April 24, 2001: Message edited by: dalickwid ]
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2001 2:04 am     Reply with quote
The truth is that comparing a digital "painting" and a traditional piece of work photographed/scanned with a reasonable dpi you can't see the difference.

And the answer to you question? Yes, you can produce pictures of the exact quality.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2001 2:22 am     Reply with quote
its called deep paint. it replicates the way real life tools work..and the way paint mixes..etc..
it does a pretty good job in faking traditional right hemisphere
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2001 4:13 am     Reply with quote
Depends on the medium you use. Some of them could be near impossible to reproduce using today's paint programs and tools.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2001 8:01 am     Reply with quote
Like staff sarge said, if you have a picture done in photoshop, and if you have a scanned painting, they could very easily be indistinguishable. However, if you have a 8 foot by six foot painting hanging on the wall of a gallery, there's NO way you're going to be able to duplicate that level of detail with a computer program.

The other consideration is that the tools you use can really shape the way your art turns out. I mean, look at some of Veb's recent stuff, ever since he picked up the oil paints again. I don't think the reason he was stuck in a rut with Photoshop was because it didn't have enough brushes, or blending modes, or anything like that. There's just something about the physical act of putting paint on canvas that can bring out creativity like nothing else. It just doesn't compare to the plastic-on-plastic feel of using a tablet.

BUT... It really depends on what your friend wants for an end product. If he's going to be a comic artist, he'll probably use the computer for most of his professional art - at least if he does coloring. But it's good to be diverse, and keep your options open.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2001 12:51 pm     Reply with quote
Deep paint is ok but it is no Painter. Corel Painter 6 is the best program for natural painting. You can pretty do any type of painting style with the brushes that is in the program.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2001 5:41 pm     Reply with quote
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my friend loves traditional painting and wants to become one...


Your friend wants to become a traditional painting?

The down side of digital is if you're planning on sending stuff to art shows and things like that, it's kinda tough. Since the computer creates the file there is no "original" in the traditional sense. Some shows will only display original traditional media and they stick prints in the print shop, digital or otherwise.

Original oils, for example can fetch thousands of dollars depending on the artist and the subject, but I would be hard pressed to find digital art prints fetching the same prices even though, like Sarge said, the print quality is identical. The only one coming close to that I've seen are the Braid guys.

I had an art promoter reject my stuff on one occasion just because it was digital. She said that my stuff was comperable to the other artists but they couldn't sell it to their clients because there was no "original" to drive the sales.

But here's a thought. Painting digitally can be a great springboard to honing traditional skills. Michael Whelan even works out reference and perspective in Pshop now and then throws it onto his watercolor board to paint over.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2001 9:04 pm     Reply with quote
luis royo owns all.

sorry. i had to point out the obvious
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2001 8:22 am     Reply with quote
i just thought id say that they can look similar but you cant match the textures and physical feeling oif real life paint...
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