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hethebar
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2001 1:01 pm     Reply with quote
I just got a wacom tablet and started painting in photoshop. I can't figure out if the airbrush or paintbrush will achieve the look i want. What does Dhabih use? What does Liquid use? What do the rest of you use? I want a more painterly look like Dhabih's new pic of the old man (pilot) as opposed to a real blurry, traditionally airbrushed look. Do you guys paint with the paintbrush but just set the opacity real low to get that layered effect?
Ok, i'm done, just waiting now...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2001 1:34 pm     Reply with quote
I was just about to ask the same question!
I just wish to know who some of you attain the �Oil Painted� look that vebjorn has done.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2001 1:56 pm     Reply with quote
most people around here use the paintbrush, rather than the airbrush. it allows you to have shapes and lines with cleaner edges. you pretty much answered your own question, use a paintbrush with varying opacity. i usually use 30-40% for most of a painting, higher opacity when i'm blocking in shapes, and lower opacity when i'm working on subtle color changes. also, working at a high resolution and sizing the final painting down can help get a realistic look.

snakebyte - i'm pretty sure that vebjorn uses painter, rather than photoshop. painter is more geared towards duplicating the look of traditional media like oil paints, watercolors, chalk, whatever. painter is from corel. you could probably get a similar look from photoshop, but you'd have to play around with settings and custom brushes i'm sure.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2001 2:03 pm     Reply with quote
What I'd like to know is what methods were used when he made this-
http://www.sijun.com/dhabih/gallery/jack.jpg

I've never seen anything so good lol, I've looked at all sorts of images made by a lot of people but that picture looks amazing, my stomach sinks whenever I see it cause it looks so good.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2001 7:03 pm     Reply with quote
zedex: That looks like airbrush work to me. You can tell because, while as a whole it looks pretty sharp, all the details are blurry. I'm guessing he just used a very small brush for most of the detail work.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2001 10:45 pm     Reply with quote
After using painter for a couple drawings, I feel quite limited in photoshop as it has extremely limited weapons to choose from. It[painter] definately achives a more "painterly" look.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2001 3:34 am     Reply with quote
hmm you can do some painterly stuff in photoshop too...

use custom brushes and the color checkbox for instance.

however the brushtracking and smudging tools in painter are WAY better I admit.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2001 1:21 pm     Reply with quote
Photoshop has faster brush response though
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2001 6:06 am     Reply with quote
yes, but Photoshop does not take into account which color that lies beneath the layer of paint your're appying. So Painter is doing alot of more stuff in each brushstroke than Photoshop thus making it a bit slower overall. Thenagain you would probably have to go over the same paint again and again in Photoshop to achieve something painterly while you get that in your first stroke in Painter which would even out the the painttime needed..
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2001 8:01 pm     Reply with quote
I would play with painter. ALthough I do love photoshop esp its new release 6 if you want to do digital paintings use a digital paint program not a photograph program


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2001 10:14 pm     Reply with quote
Doh! Most everyone agrees that Painter is the choice. I have painter classic. from your experiences, can i still paint fine even without layers or do i have to shell out 200 more dollars for painter 6? by the way, what did Liquid (or Dragon is it?)use on PSM's new cover? was that photoshop?
peace out,
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2001 6:40 pm     Reply with quote
LoL,
that's cool. Thanks for the info. Now, it's time to get to work and produce a masterpiece! Aaaaaaah Ya!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2001 12:28 am     Reply with quote
As a matter of fact, the joe mad/liquid cover was done in photoshop, even tho it has a painter feel to it. That takes some serious skill to give it that painterly feel. Photoshop is better for quicker, comic book-ish looking colors. Painter is generally better for getting canvas textures, brush stroke effects, and basically everything could need to simulate an actual painting.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2001 12:29 am     Reply with quote
As a matter of fact, the joe mad/liquid cover was done in photoshop, even tho it has a painter feel to it. That takes some serious skill to give it that painterly feel. Photoshop is better for quicker, comic book-ish looking colors. Painter is generally better for getting canvas textures, brush stroke effects, and basically everything could need to simulate an actual painting.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2001 12:31 am     Reply with quote
Sorry about that.
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