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MaLoRuM
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2001 10:49 pm     Reply with quote
Alright, ill try to keep this short.

I just upgraded my computer and installed the Wacom 4x6 pad for use with photoshop 6.0... And now here's my Dilema. I've set the option for my Brush opacity and size to both use the stylus. *it works* and the paintbrush paints accordingly to the pressure i put on the pen opacity and size wise... but not all the time. Sometimes i could be painting and i want to make a very light or very small line so i lightly put the stylus to the pad (and if everything goes right it should leave a very light colored and small line)and instead it leaves a line as if i had pushed all the way down on my pen with 100% size and 100% opacity in otherwords a big streak!

that whole paragraph sounded kind of confusing so i provided an example of whut da phuck is going on...



the line on the left is what it SHOULD do, and it does it SOMETIMES... but the line on the left is what Occasionally happens when i try to push down on the pen lightly!

This was not a problem on my previous system and i had photoshop 4.0 on that one with the same tablet etc... i've never had this problem... WTF!??! anyone know?!!?!? shit.. its pissing me off! i cant friggin draw! HELLLPPP!!!!

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[This message has been edited by MaLoRuM (edited February 13, 2001).]
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2001 11:33 pm     Reply with quote
I have the same problem with Photoshop 6.0.... and it's BOTHERING me BIGTIME!!!

I hope someone knows of a solution....

Ko
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2001 8:31 am     Reply with quote
don't install photoshop 6.. doesn't work good.
Ie 5.0 or 5.5 is good enough for me !
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2001 8:32 am     Reply with quote
don't install photoshop 6.. doesn't work good.
Ie 5.0 or 5.5 is good enough for me !
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2001 10:55 am     Reply with quote
I've had this problem, occasionally, in photoshop 5.5 - it happens when the computer suddenly gets bogged down for a moment (for whatever reason.) If there's a 1/8 second lag where your computer's concentrating on something besides photoshop and your tablet, the input from your tablet can get skewed. And from what I've heard, photoshop 6 is really icky and slow, so this is probably happening more often.

Get a dual athlon 1ghz and 512mb of ram. That should fix the problem. Or go back to photoshop 5.5.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2001 11:47 am     Reply with quote
well doesn't that really fucking suck then...

i have to DOWNGRADE basically just to UPGRADE to a TABLET..... damn.. that really sux... imma call adobe and tell them they are GAY then.. thats my only option!



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2001 2:15 pm     Reply with quote
I love PS, but it's tablet implementation has always been goofy. On the Mac, PS 4.X always had strange little quirks like the inability to properly program a keystroke to the secondary tablet button. Curiously, my Wacom eraser never switched to the eraser either --even when programmed-- like in Painter.

My suggestion: try screwing around with your tablet's options. If you've got any double click assistance on, try turning it off. Also, when sketching in PS, Adobe recommends turning OFF your virtual memory for better responsiveness on tablets. Just a thought.

-Pat
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2001 3:29 pm     Reply with quote
Oh yeah. You could also get a mac.

On a more practical note, you might want to see if you have any other software running that might be taking up a lot of your system resources. Virus scanners, ICQ, things like that will be swapped in and out of memory by windows from time to time, which will cause the glitch I was talking about. (And keep in mind there are plenty of other things that could cause this problem. This is just what happened to cause the problem to ME.) But check if there are any other programs running, and if there are, kill them.

Also, how much system memory do you have?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2001 3:58 pm     Reply with quote
im running 128megs of ram,

i've messed with the stupid settings again and again.... stupid tablet... I guess ill go back to my 266 with 96megs of ram photoshop 4.0 and its crappy 14inch viewing size monitor.. at LEAST it worked with that one!

rediculous i tell yah.... im on a 750amd, with 128 megs of ram and a 19inch monitor with adobe 6.0..and i cant even get the stinkin tablet to function properly...how sucky is that?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 12:39 am     Reply with quote
I have noticed these strange things as well.
I have also noticed that this happens most when I am making short quick strokes. It seems that I am tapping instead of stroking ( no sick jokes PLEASE!) a simple remedy is just to be careful and don't tap the pen, If the settings do get wanky, just tap the pen a again and it resets to the correct settings. Most of the time it is a double or multiple tap that causes things to go weird. I think this is strange, but OH WELL. Once you figure it out you can easily work around it. You can also adjust your pressure sensitvity to make sure that unintentinal taps are less likely to register with the pen.
Thanks for listening and I hope this helps someone.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 3:39 am     Reply with quote
Malorum - haven't you listned to what have been said??? its not the hardware. Its Photoshop 6.0 which causes the problem. I had the same problem. Tried everything from reinstalling to getting new drivers for every piece of hardware installed, but nothing could fix the problem... I switched back to Photoshop 5.5 (and Painter) for that reason. (haven't been looking back since )

So, switch back to ver5.5 or even 4.0 as you say and you should do just fine. Though I would recommend more than 128mb ram when using photoshop....

,Boom

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 7:23 am     Reply with quote
Yeah, that's why I asked about ram, 128mb might not be enough. (even for 5.5.) Upgrading might fix your problems in 6.0 as well. But going back to 5.5 will probably improve things even more. But your processor itself should be fast enough.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 2:32 pm     Reply with quote
I've tried Photoshop 6 and I also have problems with painting in it. I am much happier with my old Photoshop 4.0

Photoshop 6 is lame. In trying to make it more ergonomic, they've made it a hassle to use and it's buggy. If you want basically most all the same functionality but don't want the crappiness go for 5.5

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 3:04 pm     Reply with quote
hmmm... I've experienced that bug, but rarely, with 5.0. But I've also run PS pretty damn smoothly on low specs, even while multitasking. Guess it's just a matter how the sum of your parts is holding up, optimized, etc... but 6.0 in particular sounds bugged slow.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2001 4:37 pm     Reply with quote
welp! thanx for all the help everyone! I guess anything prior to photoshop 6 is good then eh? stupid adobe.... why they gotta mess stuff up? hoy! Welp....back to photoshop 4 and some more drawings! thanx for everyone's help again!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2001 2:41 pm     Reply with quote
Update: I was tooling around the Wacom site today and noticed they had a recent release (about a 17 days old) of their tablet driver for the PC. It looks like pressure sensitivity loss was addressed as well as an issue with click-locking. Could be just the ticket you were looking for. I don't know which driver shipped with your tablet, but check for the latest one on the Wacom site. Make sure you look at both the release number AND the date. Some of the their latest drivers actually have older version numbers. I think this might be due to the large number of release candidates they're putting out.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2001 1:39 am     Reply with quote
I'd try upping the physical memory cashe. Also buy more ram. I did those two things and PS 5.5 runs like a dream. *knock on wood*
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