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Chapel
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 10:08 pm     Reply with quote
Here is the second page of his 3 page story. Kinda bugs me because I think I've learned some better techniques but I tried to stay with the same consistancy as the splash page.



Here is the black uniform version: http://www.geocities.com/chapel_t9/colors/madbatsp2b.jpg

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 10:36 pm     Reply with quote
Looks good chapel. I think it might be better if you darkened all the pictures a bit and use the moon as the source of lighting. Might give more of a night stealthy look to it where they are roaming free. Anyway, the first ccell I really can't tell what's happening thre. It seems...... that batman does a flip? Took me a while to get that. Might want to try to indicated the direction of his path a bit more.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2000 5:21 am     Reply with quote
You do realize I didn't draw the linework right? The penciler (Joe Madureira) wanted a motion blur on the first figure in that panel.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2000 7:59 pm     Reply with quote
Heh.. guess everyone is sick of my stuff. Oh well, I went back and made some corrections to the pics. I won't point them out since nobody probably noticed the first time.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2000 8:01 pm     Reply with quote
Hey chapel man I think you are getting to be a damn good colorist..are you going to try to get work at the cons this summer?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2000 8:16 pm     Reply with quote
There is a MegaCon in Orlando in March. I'm going to take my portfolio. I'd really like to find a job before then though. I'll have the last page of this story done sometime in the next couple of days. Then I have to find some more sequentials to color. I'm pretty happy with my progress.. I colored this page in about the same amount of time I colored Vortx's pic a couple months ago.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2000 8:16 pm     Reply with quote
Your texturing is getting really cool.

I don't like how Superman's face is in shadow in the final panel. You have a secondary light source from below on the middle panel, but then that light dissappears for all others. I think that that light should appear in the other panels too. Especially the last one, which is flat, and too dark.

Also in the middle panel, the lightblue highlight on Superman's right shoulder(his right) seems too all inclusive. I think it should be more of a rim light. The moon is behind, not above.

And I might lighten the characters to bring then out of the background a bit. I think you wanted the "hunt in shadows" thing, but we have to be able to see them clearly.

I'm also not a fan of the blur. Did you try any other blur effects. Less dilation, more streaks...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2000 8:25 pm     Reply with quote
There is a reason I did the last panel in shadow like that. Joe for some reason can't decide on lightsources. So, if you notice in the middle panel Joe created an lightsource coming from the city. Then in the second to last panel Batmans upper body is almost a siloute. I figured both characters would have had to have taken a step back.. which would take out the light from below. Plus, in this story he is brooding over things. Sometimes you change the panels to convey the emotion.

The reason the motion blur doesn't work right is because there should atleast be one more batman pose inbetween the two. He is going from one extreme to another. Joe wanted a motion blur though, so I tried.

I like the lighting on the shoulder.. it was kind of a mistake, but I kept it cause I feel it adds a little more balance to the panel.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2000 8:30 pm     Reply with quote
It's awesome, if you want my input on the motion blur I think you should leave it, but also make the colors lighter than on the actual Batman so it doesn't look like there is to of them but one is the blur of the other, I don't know if you understand what I'm saying.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 3:13 pm     Reply with quote
Page 3 will probably be done tonight hopefully. They just posted it last night. Haven't had a chance to doink with it yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2000 12:06 am     Reply with quote
Hey Chapel, look'n good

Only thing that really bothered me was the last cell of the closeup of Superman's face, the shadowing seems a bit off for the light source, seems a bit to gradiated ( that a word? ) and doesn't pay attention to the curves of his face enough.

So when do we get to see page 3?

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