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N Pak
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 4:26 am     Reply with quote
I scrawlled this together using my mouse. It isnt an attempt at beautiful art, please dont mistake it for such.



as of right now I'm leaving this board. I dont feel I have the right to comment on other's works when I dont even have the talent to produce my own. Thanks to everyone who supported me while I was here, Nova, Seven of Swords, Blitz, and Skeezer especially.

Should I ever manage to fix in myself that which I have so comepletelty mangled... I might come back. Thanks and good night.

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Budoka
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 5:20 am     Reply with quote
Could have done without the pic!

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Frost
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 9:10 am     Reply with quote
N Pak: That's not a bad painting at all. Why the gloomy thoughts and departure? You should stick around and ask for comments and crits to learn more if that's what you want. We all feel like that once in a while (some more often than others)... but that's life. Take a break and some back to us later on. =)

cheers.
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Blitz
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 1:47 pm     Reply with quote
Your Going!
I don't think so.
No offence to any one but I have seen alot worse stuff on the board.
But that is what it is for, geting better, shit look at me.
Hopfully you are just in a bad mood and will come to because quiting will never ever solve anything.

PS, Nice pic, especialy for a mouse
Cheer up man, Its all good.

Blitz
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Solitaire
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 3:13 pm     Reply with quote
hey dude by doing such a moody pic you just justified you can express yourself in an artistic way - so why go away? Just for the fact that you think the whole bunch here draws better pics? - that's crap; everyone has to start at a point and this is the place to do so....
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Burrfunk
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 3:14 pm     Reply with quote
Props to blitz... I totally agree with him. You don't become an art God overnight, you have to work for it. I've been in that depressed state before... Snap out of it man, you'll only go down hill if you don't. Enjoy everything around you.

Peace and love.... Hope you feal better.

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sacrelicious
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 3:27 pm     Reply with quote
"Let him go, Ralph. He knows what he's doing."

I'm sorry to see you go. You've obviously got serious issues to work through on your own, but if and when you decide to come back, we'll all be here waiting for you... plus 87 billion more newbies. Good luck in all your travails.

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nova
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 3:35 pm     Reply with quote

Stop this craziness! Gawd, i look to you as being the one who never runs out of ideas, and will always be that way. Besides, you're in the top ten of my to-murder list So we all have dry spots now and then, and this is one of them, it's all good.

Cheer up, we love you here, guy.. hope to see you again soon



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Skeezer
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 3:49 pm     Reply with quote
Hey N Pak, I gotta knuckle sandwich waiting for you when you get back to school, if you don't take this post back. Somebody's gotta knock some sense into you. That's all I'm gonna say, you've been warned

-Skeez, peer of N Pak
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 4:46 pm     Reply with quote
Cheer up mate!, maybe the fact the complete strangers, such as myself, don't won't you to be on the down buzz, should make you feel a bit better. Yeah I've seen *alot* worse on this sight aswell, but thats not the point, anyone has the right to crit (as has been discussed in another post).
Its sounds to me that your down on other things aswell (poem gives it away nice poem too).....no?
Asumption: your in your teens....no?
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Tinusch
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 4:58 pm     Reply with quote


There's the best I could do a little over one year ago. It's horrible. I can't stand looking at it. As I said, that was a year ago. I definitely don't think I'm a good artist now, but I know one thing, that I can do WAY better than that now.

Basically, what I'm saying is just spend a little time on this forum, take in as much advice as you can, and keep trying. You'll see improvements in no time.
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N Pak
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 12:07 am     Reply with quote
Thanks for all the kind words, from those I care for and those I only know through the posts here on the board. Last night was one of the worst in a long time and, though I feel a lot better today then I did yesterday, I meant what I said. I wont be posting any more art, or crits, until I have more of a handle on my style.

At the moment I'm pulling myself in far too many directions to the point where I'm not sure exactly where my art is going or even what style is mine. I have no right at all to tell someone else that their art has problems when I cant produce my own works at a stable level of ability. Now thats not saying that I'm not ever going to post again, I would be stupid to throw away the resources avalible to me via this forum as Frost pointed out.

Another worry that others pointed out was the one that I would stop drawing all together. When art and the art of creativity are all you have going for you, losing them, even for as little as a day, is a major ego blow. In fact its humbling to the point of tears. Now I'm going to keep drawing, but I'm going to have to get a hell of a lot better. Of course Improvements only come with study and practice. So yes my work will continue.

Now for individual replies:

Sa'ge, Solitaire, and Budoka: Yeah it is moody, I'm glad it struck a chord somewhere. Yes it is unrefined. At the time I had just stopped caring, so getting the emotion across became the priority over form.

Blitz and Skeezer: I'm on par with neither of you. You are both seniors and have both displayed skills far beyond mine. Of course this doesnt include the fact that I could take you both down in a two on one game of Rocket Crowbar.

Burrfunk: Thanks for the support. I'm sure most everyone here has been in my current position more then once. How did you work through it? Or any of you guys for that matter?

Sacrelicious: Hopefully by the time I come back the newbies will be openly accepted and loved along side everyone else... That might be a long time though... err...

Lukias: Thanks, though I dont feel your a complete stranger as I've read most of your posts. You have a good style. Back to the subject yes having everyone respond does make me feel a lot better. And I WILL keep drawing, dont worry about that. About the poem, I guess it is. I never really thought about it as I wrote it. As for me being in my teens, I'm just leaving them, and life has gotten easier and harder because of it.

Tinusch: That image isnt that bad (well except the lens flare but thats a known already) but I will say you have improved greatly in the last year. Keep posting, I'd love to see more of your work.

Nova: It great to know I'm worth killing I cant express that enough. Especialy seeing how Dhab and Liquid! are both on that list. My ideas are the problem though, there are times when I wish I was just a little less creative. The images I see are like hot nails in my head, they all demand my attention and are all worth expressing, but it comes down to not being able to express them fast enough, in enough detail. Thats what gets to me more then anything. The art is the byproduct of the idea, whether drawn or written. Oh and dont worry, I know ya love me

Thanks for everything guys. With any luck this'll all blow over soon and I can make an ass of myself by returning early. Later!


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AliasMoze
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 12:37 am     Reply with quote
NPak, you're not a teenager by any chance? Why the drama?

Hey, I've only been painting for a little over a year. I can tell you I've learned a great deal from this forum, and painting was not something that came naturally to me. It will be your loss to up and not come back to the forum. Just try to get real advice from real artist, limit the amount of stupid posts of unstarted art, and you'll be fine.
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Blitz
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Location: Sedro-Woolley, WA

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 2:37 am     Reply with quote
THATS BULLSHIT!!
id kill you at rocket crowbar

But bud...I am gana have to nail you on this. Leaving is not an option. You can give crits with the best of them. It has nothing to do with your drawing ability, or your style (which I happen to like) It is no reason to leave though.
I mean come-on.
One of the best times I had on this forum was pointing out a mistake and even fixing the image for Liquid! one night. And he responded with something like :: oh ya thanks Blitz, I see the mistake now:: I was completely happy that I helped out a so called "God Of The Forum"
This just proves that your drawing skill and your style and every thing else you mentioned has nothing to do with your crits of other peoples work (for the most part)
Shit do you think Ebert could make as good a movie as Spielburg. NO... But he can critique it, and be right.

Leaving under your conditions makes no since. It does you and those in the future that you may help out a great deal, no good.

So with that said it's up to you. But if ya decide to go and then come back you might as well stay away for good because I will be waiting at the front gait with a crowbar, and I will not hesitate to use it.

Also if you do leave, that means I have wasted all this time writing this message and I do not like wasting time, I have to go play more video games.

Blitz


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Spitfire
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 2:40 am     Reply with quote
Got me thinking allready, "When are we getting the dramatic-departure-post, we�re behind on schedule".

Glad to see we�ve got this quarter�s depressed departure post in. Anyone want to sign in for spring?
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LethargicBoy
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 4:05 am     Reply with quote
I haven't posted in a while..hmm...

I can totally paralell with you, i have really shitty days sometimes, it feels like like you'll never be able to live up to the standards that you create for yourself,that everything that works against your goals looms above you like some sort of dark,intimidating monument you will never find a way around. That anything you could ever do would mean nothing in this world full of people nearly identical to yourself. I really don't know what to say...hope i diddn't sound like a shrink or something...i have a talent for alienating people.

maybe it's the fucking weather up here or something.
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