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vebjorn
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:25 pm     Reply with quote
Had a month break from drawing babes and swords, in favor of gaming(like Shenmue)Well, and tonight I just sketched up something different, my first african chick. Her name is Coco, and has a bush;-)
There are as usual some flaws here and there, since I`ve just completed it, and had not had time away from it yet, so expect some updates.
-Veb




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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:30 pm     Reply with quote
*Sniff, sniff, wipes a tear from his eye* I've missed you and your naked chicks, Veb...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:31 pm     Reply with quote
Mongrel bitch!, I ain't fuking with her..........hehe 70's styles lol!

Looks good, but yeah you need a bit more time on it for any real critique. Really dig the bow.

AIIEEEE BUSH WOMEN!!! (looks like she could knock me out with those breasts!)
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kos.mandis
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:32 pm     Reply with quote
Beautiful topic as usual!

Btw what happened to your webpage Ryo?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 1:43 pm     Reply with quote
cool pic. I like the bright background and the way the edges of the foreground 'fade' into it.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 2:37 pm     Reply with quote
I love Afrobush tastes like chicken.
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Frezetta would be proud of you.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 2:41 pm     Reply with quote
aaahh he did it, boy that's an awesome piece of work - cool

let's see what the next versions have in surprise...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 7:37 pm     Reply with quote
The backgrounds too white.... and if the sun was coming from there. why is the back of the figure kind outline in black. Hehe...anyway I like it! The white contrasts nicely with the "afrobush. " a little too much i think But great pic.. like your attention to "details"
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 9:23 pm     Reply with quote
Cool! Good to see more of your work. I really like the composition on this one - nice and simple, but a great pose with a lot of character. I can't wait to see the updates!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 9:28 pm     Reply with quote
kicks ass veb , i just got grandia 2 today o no i think ill be slacking on my drawing :P

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 9:36 pm     Reply with quote
Yagh! Those "Painter" brushes give me motion blur... or they give the picture motion blur; one or the other.

Awesome pose and wow... you gave her realistic African queen hips! She is a machine.
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Anthony J
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2000 9:41 pm     Reply with quote
Hey veb, i really like your works
since i dropped by and took a look at yours
could you take a look at my "intheworks"
image...the post says 'sleek hair woman'

i'm just asking, cause nobody has looked and i always take the time to check out your works.

By the way, maybe you could do more of a african sunset in the background, and orangy clouds in your new image...i'm not sure if its done or not...but just an idea
i think it'd be cool

nice painterly styles...im trying to get that goin on with my new works



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 1:40 am     Reply with quote
What a bow! What a bush! Good work.
Nice to see you're still around.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 1:42 am     Reply with quote
Wow man, very nice, Reminds me of Frazetta.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 3:26 am     Reply with quote
Inspired by Frazetta? I like his technics also, hes on of the best fantasy artist. Its your emagination that created the picture, and its allright to use a painting technic to get ones ideas down on the paper, bloody good, man!
Crit point: the arms look too short, the arrow in her hand looks to big compared to the other arrows on her back, maybe not the lenght of it, but certainly the feathers
Kim

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 6:12 am     Reply with quote
excellent Veb! Yes there are some small anatomical flaws, but you constantly amaze me the rough yet polished painting style. Very inspireing.
Looking forward to see some updates on this one...
;Boom
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 7:39 am     Reply with quote
I love the concept and the rendering is excellent. As a black man I would suggest this for your painting.
1) Black women have naturally curly hair, She looks either ethiopian or mixed? If so reinforce that. Maybe green eyes if she is mixed, or some kind of ethiopian artifact. Some Ethiopians have less curly hair. But beads,jewelry, or animal skins would really help either way.
Bush Africans have very curly/nappy hair(pubic hair too ). Curly(nappy) hair is one of our ethnic traits. Braids, locks, or afro hair texture would help reinforce her ethnicity. Corn braids and locks are hot right now in our culture. Uncombed short afros are hot too.

2) her anatomy is excellent but un-african. Look at strong African women they have a rounded physique. The forms are more cylindrical because the skin is thicker and has a higher percentage of body fat. Plus African life envolves more manual labor which develops strong, smooth muscles very different than muscles you get from weight training. Basically, I would make her a little more round, less cut.

3) Whats up with her skin? She looks a little ashy? Make her skin look a little richer more moisturized! Also darken up her nipples a little bit more it will make it a little more sexier.

4) Her bow and arrow need some color, Black folks love colorful stuff. Give her some color so she can coordinate her outfit! Africans like to match too!

Good job! If you need reference I have a small collection of scans from national geographic and Black Hair magazine.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 8:34 am     Reply with quote
Hmmm...... looks good. While I like my pics a bit more realistical in the ways that probably no hunter ran around totally naked like that in the last few centuries, I admire the skill that is apparent here.
The only thing that looks strange in my opinion is her right leg, which seems too long, looks like a male leg and has a strange color (where's that blue highlight coming from ?). Oh yeah and her breasts should hang a bit.
But apart from that, great work.

-bugscratch

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 9:17 am     Reply with quote
First of all... your painting skills are amazing! This is good stuff. Strong, unique pose, nice bow, and the girl is oozing with character...

But onto the crits

I agree with low_stress about the skin... I don't think I would have thought she was black unless you said so actually, hehe.

It's easy to tell she's not white... but she's not African looking. I think making her skin color more rich will REALLY help. Maybe giving her a little more cheek? Round out the face just a tad? The very slender, angular face doesn't seem to flow well with the heavy muscular body. I think the current face is WONDERFUL, this is just one way I think it can be improved upon

And I'm not sure if it's just the strap around her neck that's throwing me off, but her oobies look a little weird. They don't look natural, instead they look more like two giant orbs adhered to her body. Since she's prancing around nekkid and has oobies that big, gravity is gonna take into effect and they won't be thrust together in that way. I think just showing that there is some space between the two of them will really help. I just can't picture a badass archer girl like her with silicon in her chest

-Beth

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 10:44 am     Reply with quote
Haha I couldn't have said it better! Yeah fix the breasts, they don't seem like there attached, and since you seem to be going for that kinda prehistoric hunter look I don't think there supposed to have that silicon perkiness. Anyways love the rendering and attitude of her.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 11:22 am     Reply with quote
Coco's quite a babe...I agree with low_stress' points about getting her to look a little more 'afro' and about her boob-job. Nevertheless, this is pretty cool

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 11:38 am     Reply with quote
It's good to see you back VEB! Great image!
I can't wait to get back into painter...
any chances on you doing another tutorial? I loved seeing your process of working.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 2:01 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks for the comments;-)Useful.
I`m gonna sit down and do some fixing soon

-Veb
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 2:01 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks for the comments;-)Useful.
I`m gonna sit down and do some fixing soon

-Veb
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2000 2:09 pm     Reply with quote
Beautiful painting, as always

To make her look more african you should make her nose wider. Africans have wide flat noses.

Also the breasts bugs me. For such large breasts to be that high up she would need a push up bra. You should lower them. Apply some gravity to them as well, they look like a couple of coconuts right now


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2000 7:29 am     Reply with quote
YO VEB

Let's try this again...

"Btw what happened to your webpage Ryo?"

Translation:
By the way, what happened to your webpage? (Ryo is the name of the character from Shenmue, but you should know that...)
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2000 8:23 am     Reply with quote
Vebjorn: Excellent painting. Very much in the Frazetta style however I'm starting to see some things that are distinctly yours. Keep up the great work. I always say, when you've got one thing down (Frazetta in your case) then add a totally new ingredient to spice things up (Perhaps start using extensive photo reference or maybe even (gasp:-)African Art or Photography. Picasso used it to great effect. I'd suggest you get these books: Last of the Nuba, Africa Adorned etc.

Low-Stress: Another brother here, I concur 100% Paintings of Black people have traditionally been handled very similar to Film. Mostly bad lighting, inaccurate anatomical features mixed with poor color coordination:-) Good Point.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2000 8:54 am     Reply with quote
kinky shit man. I don't like the way the bow is.
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