[liquid-e]

Liquid Entertainment | http://www.liquid-e.com

We've released a scroller to the design community which functions like a plugin for Photoshop. All you need do is login to our website and download the DHTML Scroller plugin from Liquid Entertainment. Install it into Dreamweaver then load up a new html page, click on the plugin and presto, a fully functional scroller which is 100% customisable! This scroller is also the only one to be completely compatible with both IE5.5 AND Netscape Navigator.

Here are some great links to artists already using the Liquid Entertainment DHTML Scroller. http://www.thatbitch.com http://www.ortaga.com http://www.liquid-e.com http://www.warmasters.com

goto www.liquid-e.com/ to get this wicked scroller plugin that will make your site kick some ass

[Chapel]

You have got to be kidding me. I know Ortaga does neat looking interfaces and all, but these have got to be the slowest loading sites I've ever seen. I'm sorry, I'd rather use flash if I wanted all of that junk.

By the way, I may just change my name to "Liquid?". There are only what.. 3 or 4 companies represented here already with the word "liquid" in the title. (that last part was just a free rant for yous people)

Almost forgot.. what does this have to do with Digital Art?

[This message has been edited by Chapel (edited December 06, 2000).]

[liquid-e]

I'm letting you know that it's available to you and other designers out there. This relates to design because design methods and navigational metaphors are tantanmount to successful site design. It's an important notification because its the first scroller that doesn't require a degree in order to install, I think that counts for alot

The scroller does not make your site slow, infact, if you use the scroller as its supposed to you'll only be loading content within the scroller and not refreshing the entire webpage i.e. it'll speed up the whole process.

All these artists/sites have used this scroller in a different way, it was to illustrate the sort of customisation that's possible.

Team Liquid Entertainment http://www.liquid-e.com

[Chapel]

This is a Digital Art forum.. not a web design forum.

[This message has been edited by Chapel (edited December 06, 2000).]

[waylon]

"if you use the scroller as its supposed to"...

So why does the liquid-e site take a full minute to load on my t-3 at work?

[liquid-e]

Because geographically the server is located within Australia. It's possible theres a heavy load on the server.


Team Liquid Entertainment http://www.liquid-e.com

[This message has been edited by liquid-e (edited December 06, 2000).]

[proximo]

I dont want to piss anyone off or anything but chapel.. isnt web design a form of digital art ? i mean its dont in photoshop, so its digital and everything .. just because the sites load slow is no reason to trample him.. I for one find it interesting .. and if this plug in works well with IE and netscape i think it a valuable tool and thank you for posting it .. anyhow just my thoughts .. later .. (btw)the sites loaded ok on my side.. but its only 10:00 am right now .. that could be it .. late..

[Hightop]

Nice site design... Like it...
Maybe i should start use Dreamweaver....
Use frontpage 2000 right now....

Will try the scroller plugin later today...
If i just can find Dreamweaver.... Have it somewhere in my room.

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[Nightime]

Chapel I think you are being way too harsh on him...

I always considered Web design a type of digital art... while imagery is layed out differently on screen, it still consists of technique: composition, color, value to name a few.

-JJ

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[Chapel]

I probably am being a little harsh. I knew someone would catch my remark about web design. In a since it is digital art. I won't disagree. However, This post to me seems like an advertisement that doesn't belong here. I wouldn't have said anything if this was in Random Musings.

(This is why Dhabih won't give me rights probably.)

[Spydur]

I think I side with Chapel on this. Site design is one thing, but that is blatant advertising.

[CapnPyro]

is it just me or did that scroller not work on a single one of those slow-loading websites? the text was either not there, or it was and the button did nothing, or the text was waaaay off to the side. on the liquid-e site no text loaded at all and the links loaded nothing may want to check your compatibility with IE5 for the Mac.

-Capn

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[A.Buttle]

This is not the place to advertise.

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[Liquid!]

Now this is sort of funny.

Liquid-e like your website, however, clicking on the hotspots did not get me to the other areas of your site (I've got PC with IE5.0).

But I sort of had to laugh - why?

Here's the quote from your site:

quote:

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"Liquid was founded in 2000 by Ben Thomas and Tomek Zagala who are both experienced web developers.[quote]

Liquid! [graphics] has been around since 1995-96. And I'm sure we weren't the 'first' either.

[quote]The founding philosophy of Liquid is fluidity in design and originality in inception, this is the cornerstone of all our work to date and will continue well into the future.

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Well, at least you don't claim originality when it comes to your company name.

FYI - there is a Liquid Entertainment that produces a game called BattleRealms, which Feng [vortx] works for. [NOTE: Hmmm Battlechasers, Liquid! ... BattleRealms, LiquidEntertainment. Coincidence? Feng?]

quote:

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Clarification
Liquid Entertainment is based in Melbourne, Australia. Another Liquid Entertainment can be found here however they are not associated with us. It's just one of those coincidences.
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Well, truth be told I would come up with another name. Afterall, you already have another company that is called the EXACT same thing in melbourne, not to mention the videogame producers... Liquid! doesn't really qualify, however, some people might be confused... Hope I don't sound like I'm busting on you too much...

Again, I think your site and design sense is excellent, but considering the vast amount of web-developers out there a catchier name might be better. Just my thoughts.

-c

[Ben-Liquid]

Hi,
Being loosely affliated with Liquid Entertainment I thought I'd clear up a couple of points...

All 'cept whether the original post was appropriate... I'm not touching that one with a 40 foot barge pole...

I will say though that interactive arts are common in the digital arts arena and in my opinion deserve as much recognition as any other form... just because it may be functional, doesn't mean it's artistic merits can automatically dismissed...

As to the page working or not, it does take a long time to load and because of the way it's structured IE/NS don't really indicate well when it's finished or not... it's a good idea to leave it for a bit just to make sure it's finished downloading everything...

In particular reference IE5 on Mac, since we don't have one readily available we're relying on the supposed platform transparency of HTML... ok, we're just praying alot that there aren't too many problems till we can get our hands on a Mac with IE5...

Lastly, the name... no cute story that I can remember for why we chose it but we have been using it since sometime in 1997 it's just we never got around to registering et al till now. And, as far as I'm aware, there isn't any other company in Melbourne/Victoria, Australia with that name that works in the computer field otherwise the name registration would have been rejected... Whether someone should change their name just because there's a couple of other of companies with similiar names in similar areas is a moot point in my opinion. As long as no-one tries to deny each other's existence, claim to be the ultimate, original, superior, whatever Liquid it doesn't really matter. Especially if care is taken to make sure clients don't get too confused...

Anyway, I hope that was useful to someone

[Chapel]

quote:

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Originally posted by Ben-Liquid:
As to the page working or not, it does take a long time to load and because of the way it's structured IE/NS don't really indicate well when it's finished or not... it's a good idea to leave it for a bit just to make sure it's finished downloading everything...

In particular reference IE5 on Mac, since we don't have one readily available we're relying on the supposed platform transparency of HTML... ok, we're just praying alot that there aren't too many problems till we can get our hands on a Mac with IE5...

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For a company concentrating on web design and implementation.... you really should think about what you just said.



[This message has been edited by Chapel (edited December 06, 2000).]

[Visigoth]

hahaha no shit, Chapel...
An important rule to remember when designing a webpage;

...less is more.

~{V}~


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[Plop]

FIGHT FIGHT!!!

[samdragon]

I'm not not putting liquid-e down at all, I know fully how hard it is to get a company started and making that first impression is very important.
I do wish you guys luck with all of it.

have any of you looked at www.projectseven.com? Now these guys know design, and they know webdesign. And..thier floating Iframe is the way to go. Simple, quick and very VERY nice. i use it for some of the sites I'm working on. No problems.
for an example check this out, projectseven did this..not me
http://www.projectseven.com/dreamweaver/studio/dp11/index.htm
have fun

[Awetopsy]

what is the purpose? If a person cant figure out what to do the second he gets to the site he loses interest.. and you loose hits...

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