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Francis
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2000 12:14 pm     Reply with quote
Hi Pierre

This is a nice painting, but what if you worked with the trees like this? Right now the leaves on the tree on the left seem to be very similar in value to the house, and to me it seems to fight with the house a bit. If you adjust the contrast like this, the house will stand out a bit more.

I also added some hot areas in the lower left corner just for the hell of it.

Just a thought - hope it's useful!



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2000 1:40 pm     Reply with quote


looks very nice pierre!! I agree with the small changes francis did though, made the house more in focus.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2000 11:45 pm     Reply with quote
Ok, don't flame me for this one.

I did it for a very close person to me, she loves victorian house exteriors

I used photoreference for the house, but remodeled it quite a bit and changed the lighting. The environment is imaginary.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2000 11:59 pm     Reply with quote
I really love the environment. If any thing I'd try to make the house a little less blurry cause it's the focal point of the area. Maybe go over it with some hard brushes.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2000 2:37 am     Reply with quote
Hey Pierre, looks cool. The way you see shapes and values really is like a matte painter.

Only suggestion I could make is the contrast is too high on the left tree. It does not feel like shadow. The entire left tree appears to be lit from the right, opposite of the house.

Keep em comin...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2000 1:10 pm     Reply with quote
Above,
Yes, I think too that the house is a bit too blurry, or too "undefined" at some areas. This is my way of cheating when I am too lazy to do straight lines =). I enjoy painting trees or humans more because you don't see too many straight line and edges.

Francis,
I like your changes alot. It is interesting how little you tend to eventually see as you are working on your image. I need to work more on giving my picture better contrast at the correct areas. Can easily get stucked in an overall value, sometimes I strive for it, sometimes not. You know, I like the added "hot areas" the best.

Spooge,
Thanks, I don't know if I could get a better comment than that. When I was a kid and realized that so many backgrounds in the Star Wars trilogy were actually matte paintings it took me some 10 hours to watch one part, really, I used the freeze frame and tried to look at the paintings, not a very good rez though.

I agree with you on the left tree. I chose the wrong way when i wanted to make a compromise in that area. I wanted it to stand out a bit, even though it should pretty much be kept in shadow and have very subtle values. I see all of this clearer now that you guys mentioned it to me. Looking at it now I am thinking that if I made the values very subtle on the left tree and added some blueish tones to the parts reflective to the sky and some warmer greenish tones to the parts reflective to the lawn, it would get so much better.



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