[ceenda]

Hi there.

This is a very work in progress pic based on an exercise in the book: "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" by Betty Edwards. The reference pic in the exerecise is a self portrait by Rembrant Van Rijn.

It dawned on me that alot of you probably have this book so any crits are really appreciated.

As I say, I rather be doing this in Painter, however, I go into Brush Tracking, set up my tablet, select a brush, start painting. Everything seems fine and then, after a few scribbles the pressure sensitivity disappears and it's all or nothing. ???



[EDIT - This message has been edited by ceenda, who managed to forget to put the picture in the original posting...]

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[aquamire]

Hey, thats pretty good Ceenda. Hows that book working out for you?

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[Jason Manley]

ok...try getting the latest drivers for your wacom by doing a search for wacom drivers.

if that fails them remove the wacom program from your system and reinstall...that happened to me and that was my solution.

my crit on your piece is to pay closer attention to the value difference between the large mass of lights and the large mass of darks. Rembrandt is very subtle and this is something that we should all look for too...subtlety


jason

[opticillusion]

that problem took my computer into a whirl for about a week where I couldn't even boot all the way. cause I did just that, downloaded the latest...4.52 version off the wacom website. but, I called them...and was the only one who had a problem were a compality issue came up and I couldn't boot. But hey, 4.51 worked for me....so it's doing fine now. As for photoshop....the new driver fixed the problem there for me.

as for the pic...it looks pretty good. The area of the eyes is done real well, but you might want to add just a tad of highlight to his left eye as it looks a little too black and empty.

[Anthony]

The fix I have is I just shake the stylus in my hand a couple times. All fixed.

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[Rinaldo]

I have the exact same problem. Only recently has is happend in PS a few times, I just uncheck "pressure", "size" or what ever is on, then check it again. problem solved. in painter it seems to go in and out. one minute it works fine and then bang it's like I'm on a mouse. it comes back sometimes for no apparent reason. Got the latest divers, reinstaled many a time. hehe I've got a japanese version so I have to go through screens of uninteligable text when instaling. It reminded me of one of those old text adventures involving trial and error. no, that button exits the instalation and restarts my machine, I'l start again....hehe I'l shut up....

your pic looks good ceenda, I'm doing a bit of that book every now and then. I need to go through the whole updated version. Have you been findind it usefull? it would be easier and more meaningful to crit if you posted the ref side by side. is the ref in the book? I couldn't find it.

L8r

[Slicer]

It sounds like a good book and I have thought about maybe buying it, but there's a problem. In the store there i 5 different versions with the same author.
2 of them is printed in 1999. Help?

[Rinaldo]

I think the latest version is "the new Drawing on the right side of the brain" it has some extra stuff on colour which is pretty good, much more rounded than the early ones printed in the eighties. there was also a 2000 edition or something, I'm not sure which is the very latest. It's pretty confusing. I'm not sure if there's much difference between the ones printed lately. maybe have a quick look at the introduction or something.

[tyron]

I get that problem too and i think i know what it is..
The little plastic pin in front of the pencil gets stuck inside the pencil which makes the pencil think that it's always at full pressure.. i use to just drag the pin out a bit when that occurs..

Beatiful pic btw.

Edit: typo.

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[Shousetsu]

its looking good, I dont know if this is how its drawn in the book but his eyes are much to high up on his head and to close together.

[ceenda]

Thanks for the comments guys.

aquamire: Thanks. I think the book is very good and I would certainly recommend it to others.

Jason: Are you the guy that posted some Icewind Dale stuff recently? That stuff was very good. I think I've tried re-installing drivers but I also had the same problem on my previous tablet, a WACOM PenPartner. I must confess that my knowledge of Rembrant's style is not well versed and that I'm working from a black and white photo in a book.

Sa'ge: Yeah, it's annoying, but when you take into account that a huge amount of people intend to use a WACOM in Painter it seems like a bit of an oversight on behalf of the company to not address the problem. Can't say I've had a problem like that in Photoshop though.

opticillusion: Thanks, I know what you mean about the left eye.

Anthony: Hmm... I might try that.

Rinaldo: It was you who recommended the book to me! I would post the ref but I don't have a scanner right now. If anyone wants to put up the ref that would be great.

Slicer: Get the latest version. Mind you, does anyone have lecturers/teachers who insist on people buying old editions of books because of like one page that isn't in later editions?

tyron: Thankyou. I'll try that.


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[Slicer]

sorry for being so late with the reply...
could you get the ISBN-nr for the 2k edition of the book? Maybe I can order it then...
or ask the bookshop here in town/village to order one for me.

ceenda: of course I would get the latest.just that I don't know which is the latest one. Sorry if I we're rude..



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[Jorge]

The same thing happened to me on Painter Classic (don't have full one). I came up with a very fast and useful solution, but will not work for you if you use the third button in the pen for anything (I do not). So i configure that button to "keep pressure" (sorry for inaccuracies: translating from spanish version), press it while holding the pen in the air and, keeping the 3rd button pressed, do a brush stroke on the tablet (with pressure level kept to zero due to the 3rd button, ie, 100% "transparent" ink). Pressure sensitivity is back again.

I hope that helps.

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[Fred Flick Stone]

ceenda-this is a very cool image. I really like the characture appeal of it. Reminds me of someone, but I cant think of the person right off hand. THe only comment I can give that might help the image, but it really needs no help, is defining the nostril of the left side of the nose, or the side that is in shadow. YOu still have the indication of form in the shadows, they just aren't as visible as in the lights. Are you working on a style with this piece? I really like the style that is developing from it. I hope you continue down this path. The more you learn about the figure, the more stylized these images will become.

I really like this piece alot, thinking of doing one in color like this too?

[Alan Tew]

The Painter tips for lost pressure sensitivity with the wacom sound too elaborate to me. From my personal experience, just lifting the pen up and away from the pad's "detection" range and letting it back in does the trick.

Sounds like the tablets give a different kind of grief to each individual. How nice.

-mr.2
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[ceenda]

Jorge: Hmm, I stil haven't played around with the pen tools yet. I'll try that though, thanks!

Fred: Thankyou. I'm still trying to learn how to 'paint' and the exercise in the book seemed quite a good way to learn. There was also something in the Sargent painting book (which spooge put on goodbrush.com) which said something about starting from midtones and I usually start from a plain white background which is probably not a good idea. I have to confess though that I am working from a portrait by Rembrant, and so I am 'copying' his style of painting. Hope you're not mad at me . I see what you mean about the left nostril, I'll try and re-preportion it. I would really like to learn more about form. Hopefully I'll get the chance to do some life drawing etc. some time.

Alan Tew: Yeah, that seems to work! BTW - did you miss the binder contraversy a few months ago?

[Frost]

Reminds me of the singer of AC/DC.

[ceenda]

Frost: Lead singer of AC/DC? I must protest!

[Alan Tew]

ceenda: I actually sat through the whole thing, lurking. I was too embarassed to speak so I decided to come back later.

Hello.