Sijun Forums :: View topic - Seraphym

Jenn · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 4:00 pm

Sad stuff happened and this fitted my mood.. The wings look fine to me.. But the pose looks a little strange... Anyone got some input for me please??

I would really apreciate it.

Tah..

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Anthony · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 4:27 pm

Might I suggest a more dynamic pose, as below:

I guess it's something of a cop-out, since I didn't really change the pose that much, but camera angles are important too. Good luck with it,

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-Anthony
Carpe Carpem

Jenn · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 4:41 pm

Thanks.. but that pose you posted doesnt have the effect I want. I do want it looking straigt at the seraphim.. the top i can get its just the arms and the legs that I feel look wrong...

thanks for trying tho..

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edible snowman · member Member # Joined: 12 Sep 2000 Posts: 998

maybe if the seraphym was walking towards you and kind of looking down, so it would be still straight on... sad stuff sucks, just like my day :-(

CapnPyro · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 4:51 pm

you can still have him straight on, just shift his torso back more like anthony has, makes it more intersting instead of having him perfectly staight on

-Capn

Anthony · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 5:27 pm

Hmm - a few questions then:
1)Is he flying or not?
2)Do you want him to be sad, happy, glorious, lucid(sort of like I have in my sketch), or something else?
3)What is it you want him to be doing?

Answer those and I can give you a sketch to work from. :]

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-Anthony
Carpe Carpem

Jenn · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 6:10 pm

He is sposed to be off the ground a little... screaming at heaven for stealing the love of his life away... he is furious and heart broken..

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DarkChyld

Tinusch · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 6:27 pm

Umm, this took like 2 minutes, but hopefully it can kind of convey the idea I had. I had it perfectly envisioned, but this was what came out. Eh.

Transcendence · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 6:34 pm

Me getting technical....Seraphs have 3 pairs of wings, not 1. Seraphim is plural form.

Jenn · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 6:42 pm

in the bible they have 6 pairs.

Just because there is only one pair there does not mean there will be one pair when i finnish.

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DarkChyld

Flexible Elf · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 6:50 pm

my dramatic pose

-Flexible Elf

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Francis · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 7:04 pm

This is an ultra quickie...

One thing you could do is avoid having the edge of the page cut off your figure. I tried to keep the general attitude of the figure more or less the same. I'm no biblical scholar, so I don't know what the seraphim are really supposed to look like, so I just made something up. Mostly I just solidified the form a little (altho still probably full of anatomy errors, but this seems like a pretty stylized feel you're going after) and added a simple light source to add some value to the figure (light on the face and fading as it goes down).

Hope that is worth something...

Cheer up kid.

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Jenn · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 7:10 pm

Thanks Francis. I will try get everything in the image.
As for the pose. He is screaming at heaven... Which means his torso and back are arched a fair bit.. he is almost parallel to the ground... arms at 45 % angle etc..
His head and chest should be almost the same hight... He is sposed to be n pain and stuff... if you can image his chest exploding towards heaven.. I hope that makes some sense...

Francis: Seraphim is the guardian of god.. the first ones that stand between god and evetyhign else.. the only weapon they have is the word of god.. no swords etc.. they are red skinned.. they also have 6 sets of wings etc. they in some tales etc only have 3 sets...

But yeh.. they are the most powerful angels and the most important ones to god..

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Transcendence · Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2000 7:40 pm

Really? I thought it was 6 wings. Glad I made that comment or else I wouldn't have learned that

. I have an odd fascination with seraphim..

Elf: reminds me of a plump cupid..picking his nose.

Liquid! · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2000 12:37 am

Just started goofin' off myself... don't think this is useful though...

[This message has been edited by Liquid! (edited October 17, 2000).]

CapnPyro · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2000 1:00 am

lmao @ flexible

Ian · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2000 1:27 am

Hiya All! Here is my pic. I call it...Ascending Hell
Ok enough hoopla, here it is.

Hope u like.
E

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Mime · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2000 8:10 am

Hello everybody
Jenn I just wanted to say that your pose looks to me perfectly fitted to your description of the "mood" of the seraphim ... all the other pose people proposed are good, but your first one really made me think the first time that this angel was desesperate and angry against God himself maybe ... I think you should just use this great pose

well that was my 2 poor cents

Jenn · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2000 1:08 pm

Thanks.. Yes so far the first pose t at I did looks the best.

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Anthony · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2000 2:10 pm

Just another little idea:

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-Anthony
Carpe Carpem

Jenn · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2000 3:33 pm

heheh thanks ants... Well I am at work.. My boss is all sympahetic.. hehehe

the pose you posted was good.. but it wasnt angry enough.. I forgot to bring my wacom in.. But I shall try to finnish the pose toniht..

It needs to me alot stronger and angrier... and as i said before his torso should be almost level with his neck

Thanks tho

Feel free to keep trying

Lubb all u uber geeks.. :d

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DarkChyld

toast! · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2000 3:44 pm

hahaha des tongs

)

oops sorry
don't know how to say in english

Fred Flick Stone · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2000 5:05 pm

Jenn-here is a couple tries. Actually, one try with a few leg options. I think that instead of straight on, and instead of an upshot, a down shot would help. Especially if you are trying to emphasize the emotional content. As long as he is looking up, you should be able to get the idea of who he is yelling at...

Hope it helps a bit...

[This message has been edited by Fred Flick Stone (edited October 17, 2000).]

Tetanus · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2000 5:38 pm

This is a cool thread. It's giving me lots of cool ideas for a new pic. You guys are great at perspectives and stuff. Thanks for posting this Jenn! heh.

- Tetanus/Tim

Jenn · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2000 5:41 pm

Hehe tet.. you know I draw for you..

Still would if you still asked me too.. Gues I should finnish those squiralls i started

But you never ask anymore..

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DarkChyld

Tetanus · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2000 5:46 pm

Aww sorry Jenn. I didn't know. You always seem so busy with work, I thought I'd be bugging you if I was asking you to draw me squirrel pictures all the time

I'll try to think of something cool for you to draw for me. Hmmmmm... hehehe.

- Tim

ceenda · member Member # Joined: 27 Jun 2000 Posts: 2030

Good thing Dhabih increased the size of the index page I was would miss most of the threads that appear here.

I like your version alot Jenn. It's the only one where the expression is not over emphasised, which gives a kinda mystic quality to it.

Liquid: Very nice, very Bisley... I approve.

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Hurri-cane · Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2000 2:51 pm

well, i dont have a wacom, so i cant sketch in photoshop (fast anyways)
so here goes, just straight sketching, no thoughts, it might show..

nice jenn ! u should finnish it...

.caneman

Jenn · Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2000 2:56 pm

Hehhe thanks Hurr...

Nice pic btw

Closest to the mood so far!

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DarkChyld