[egerie]

... but don't kill me please. I'm experimenting.

I came to find photoshop quite limited, hence limiting in the brushes department so I tried Painter Classic. I know it's not worth crud compared to painter 6 but I'M STILL WAITING AFTER COREL TO MAKE A SHAREWARE OUT OF IT ! *pant pant* And Metacreation's painter 5 shareware isn't available anymore

So, digital painters, what are the big differences between painter classic and painter 6 ? I'm familiar with the later as we used to work with it to coulour our animations, but that's it. The interface *cough* is quite the same on either of them I think. Should I invest ? Shan't I ?

Ok this is a 45 mins pitch while holding the book with the bust reference pic on my knees. I think I have a hernia.
Hom�re (sp in english??) looks like he fell face first into the mud Took me a while to figure out that wet canvas thing and that mixing oils and watercolors aren't necessarly a good idea.
What's your favorite medium in painter ?
Crits ? Confetis ? Death threats ? Intelligent pondering ? ? ?

ege who types too much.

[Jason Manley]

Not bad at all...

I started my art studies by doing things like that. My only input is that if you want to paint in a painterly manner, take a long look at the brushstrokes of Sargent, Rembrandt, William Merrit Chase and even Frans Hals...you will notice that the marks are very very similar. I use the same kinds of marks etc... if you memorize all the kinds of marks they make (by doing a few master copies) in the areas they use them then your images will look much stronger. You will notice that they all share a brushstroke language. The marks the masters use are all to strengthen form, space and most importantly character. Look at them lots. Thats my advice.


Jason

[Sumaleth]

Jason;

We're onto something interesting here. Any possibility that you might might a suitable Sargent scan on the net and point out the sort of brushstrokes that you're refering to?

Sumaleth

[Jason Manley]

http://www.algonet.se/~mgus/zorn/

try this site...this is anders zorn...then look around at sargent sites and compare the look...the super polished and rendered paintings you see by people like bouguereau etc...went through a looser kind of like stage like this before they were rendered to finish.

Pay attention to where brush strokes are soft and where they are sharp....look closely at the edges of the brush strokes...notice how some strokes have hard and soft edges..notice how these edges are similar in the same places regardless of the artist...it is all about form, space, light, focus and character.

Jason

[YourMum]

Egerie, nice painting..

Jason, do you have any tutorials made by you about that topic?

-Juha-

[gseegert]

Having used both painter classic and painter 6, i'd say its not really worth the investment if you have photoshop. The biggest difference I noticed was that they add layers, and some new brushes. I still find myself manually opening up the painter classic brush sets, and using those. And I never use layers in painter, either... I just use photoshop for all the clean up work. Painter classic is darn pretty good. (hehehe i almost wrote "Painter vlassic". pickles, anyone?)

But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

[egerie]

Back from long, straining weekend..

Thanks a lot for the precious info Jason. I'll try and brake in the local museum with my magnifier (sp?)
Seriously now, I think I'll keep watercolors in the non digital area for the time being.. I find it too frustrating to go 100% digital at the moment, even when using a wacom. Besides, it's a bit more dynamic to brush accross your canvas with your arm than fidget with a 4x5 tablet pen ..
And the colors ! argh

*snif*
ege, seriously lacking sleep