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Chapel
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2000 6:24 am     Reply with quote
Occasionally I flip through magazines and just sketch people. Here are a few I did trying to get a simple line style.



This is one of my latest drawings, but I think I actually took a step back doing this one. I ended up drawing it too small, so I couldn't get the look I wanted. Oh well.. moving on.



By the way, the character is E.V.E. Protomecha. Created by Chris Lichtner (Liquid!). I should be ashamed for posting this now that I think about it.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2000 8:10 am     Reply with quote
Its not as bad as you think, with some colour, the lines might be less confusing to me tho *for your E.V.E*

the others, the eyes look a little close together...

here ill make you feel better, i did this hmm pretty much the first week i got my wacom... its my version of eve... its just a sketch



-Lisa
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Chapel
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2000 8:44 am     Reply with quote
That is pretty neat Darkmoon. I did mine just cause I'm not very good at drawing women and mech-type stuff. So, EVE is a nice combo of both.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2000 12:36 pm     Reply with quote
darkm00n! hehEhhe... use the m00!!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2000 1:14 pm     Reply with quote
Really cool looking! Always nice seeing people doing your characters! Keep it up!!

-chris
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2000 9:45 pm     Reply with quote
Hey chapel. Good to se you drawing some more. It looks pretty good. saw this last night and noticed a few things that could be improved but didn't have any time. I'm pretty bad at explaining things so I'll try to Illustrate.

In your eve pic you are using no line width variation or a very samll amount anyway. the highlights on the hair don't describe form very well. you are essentialy giving thick out lines to the hair shapes. Try and describe the highlights with the black shapes. think in terms of light direction etc. The bottom pic is what I see you as doing. You might be using the effect as a stylistic thing which is ok but have a look at the different pics and see which one you like best. top one uses varing line widths and shaddows in places. not so much as in big black shadows but the lines try to describe the form. the middle one is a sketch (ignore it for instructional purposes I just thought it looked cool ) the bottom one uses no line width variation, and the hair is rendered with the same method I see in your pic.




I'm just trying to show what different methods will look like and the difference between them. If you are doing something as a style (pretty much all comic style stuff is of this nature to different degrees) then make sure you are in controll of it. Your stuff sometimes lacks definition in form. The shapes in the arms and legs are also relativly two dimensional. try to describe them as three dimensional. forms overlap cast shadows, wrap around each other etc.
the top mag sketches look pretty good, a few problems but nothing reacuring. I would have used a pen. maybe do that thing where you use a single line or somehting. try making those lines all in one stroke. make it fluid. You'll take a while to get them right but it might help.

Hope this helps, I'm not much good at explaining things of late. if any of it sound wrong or anything then tell me where to go.




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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2000 10:13 pm     Reply with quote
The sketches look alright. I always find drawing females difficult (at least with males you can get away with adding more lines to make it look right which you can't do with females).

I'd agree with what has already been posted in trying to get some line thickness variation.

The thing that stood out the most with the full picture of the female was that it didn't look natural or just strange. If she is leaning up against a wall, the character is on two much of an angle looks like they would fall over. The females raised left leg doesn't seem right position wise. (the arm behind the head 'anchors' the character meaning it has to be resting against something considering the rest of the picture).

If the female was lying down, the legs don't feel like they would be touching the ground and she is in the middle of doing situps/crunch's (although not straining a muscle with that face expression).

For mine, the image doesn't look right because it is too confusing as to what the character is actually doing. The line work otherwise is alright.

This may seem overally critical but it was intended to give you a couple of suggestions.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2000 4:38 am     Reply with quote
I should have mentioned in the first post. When I started inking it I noticed how many mistakes I had made, so I just said to hell with it and just traced the lines. That is not an attempt at inking. I'm not that bad. Also, those top sketches are actually blown up in size. On paper they are about 1.5 inches, and the 3 of those took about a minute each to sketch. I just thought they looked kinda neat. (Hey if everyone else can post their quick crap why can't I? hehe)

Nice examples by the way Rinaldo.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2000 5:20 am     Reply with quote
I've come to the conclusion that this is just too stupid to finish..

yes... it's PHOTOMECHA E.V.E. somebody take my pencil away.....

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2000 6:45 am     Reply with quote
Dean: Your stuff looks Alan Tew-ish. Kinda kooky.. hehe. I'm in the process of doing a new EVE pic. Hopefully I should be able to post it by tomorrow. Have to try and redeem myself.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2000 12:13 pm     Reply with quote
Chapel: I excel at Kooky. But I think you're feeling this piece is Alan Tew-ish because of the Naked guy. I was trying to Emulate Ale Garza's work a bit here.

-Dean
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2000 12:22 pm     Reply with quote
Actually, it is because she is sticking her tongue out. If you trying to emulate someone's style I suggest you flat out copy them. Thats right I said it. What I do is copy a few pics they've made, but just do things that are consistent in each pic. Like the other day I was trying to get a Bachalo type pic. I made about 10 sketches of just his head drawings. Helps figure out how they think I guess. I'll post them tonight to show you what I mean.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2000 12:25 pm     Reply with quote
That would mean putting extra effort on my part into something that was just so Dumb I had to post. Gads... I can't believe I came up with this.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2000 4:52 pm     Reply with quote
Ok, here is another sketch. What did I do wrong?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2000 12:30 am     Reply with quote
Hi Chapel, well i think her right butt side (?) is not aligned with the left side, it should be above from where it's now. Also her shoulders and breasts don't follow the same direction, the breasts line is almost horizontal while the shoulders seem to follow an inclined line. IMHO.

Anyway, wait till somebody with better anatomy knowledge and better english gives you his/her opinion. I don't think what i said makes much sense.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2000 4:40 am     Reply with quote
Well, here is another sketch I did last night. I told micke along time ago I was going to try and redo one of his black and white pics. Anyway this one has a ways to go before its done. I suck at drawing anything mechanical. I was also playing around with a different style, since I have none of my own yet.



By the way, since I'm just sketching lately I'm going to keep them in this thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2000 5:29 pm     Reply with quote
Another sketch. I've been so concerned with developing a style that it has really effected my drawing ability. I'm going at it with a different approach now. Letting the drawing build themselves instead of trying to define them right away. Oh well.. here is my latest. This was taken from a picture in Maxim magazine.



I forgot this beauty queen also..


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