[SushiMaster]

I was using the search to look for fred's tutorials, and it looks like most of the images are gone... :-( Right now I need some sort of hand tutorial cause I'm sick of being unable to draw a hand without it looking like a collection of water balloons (or worse).

1) Is it still possible to get to your tuts, Fred? Have you got them saved somewhere? Can you re-post them plz?

2) Anyone know some quick (not quick to learn, but quick, sure-fire to apply) method for drawing hands - they don't have to be totally realistic, anime style hands will do, but right now I can't draw those any more than I can draw any other hands...

HELP :-/

Thanks in advance...

Daniel

[Frost]

Spooge Demon put up a tutoral on drawing hands... you might want to check that out. Here's the link for you: Spooge's hand mini tut.

ed - Going back, I see you posted a 'thanks' in that thread... erm... hm. =) I don't remember Fred ever posting a hand tutorial.

[This message has been edited by Frost (edited September 26, 2000).]

[SushiMaster]

I do... first he just had a long text explaining things, and said he'd scan and post up the stuff later, and then someone else posted it for him in another thread or something... I can't find the other thread, but those threads which I've found were full of broken links instead of pictures... :-(

In the unfortunate case where I can't find Fred's tut, anyone know of a good place to learn (not necessarily quickly) to sketch hands (quickly)?

I mean I'm practicing drawing people and it's ticking me off to have to draw blobs instead of hands...

Daniel

[Fred Flick Stone]

That would be my fault. I sincerely apologize. I ran out of room on my geocities page, and had to remove files to post more. When I get an unlimited bandwidth site I will get them all back. If you let me know what is missing I will repost, but as of now I have no idea what is missing. I have been pretty bad with file management lately, so you guys please let me know what is missing, I will try and replace it quickly...

Sorry again...later

[SushiMaster]

Hey, don't apologise :-P You're giving all this help away for free, the last thing you should do is apologise when it's unavailable through some reason out of your control :-P

Btw, I told you and mailed you before about putting all your tuts on one site, but you didn't reply... Right now I'm too busy to work on that, as univ is just about to get started again, but I'm sure there's plenty of people around here who could get you a proper web site up and running so you could have all your tuts in one place... If you want I can ask some people at a web design forum I visit, I'm sure a good handful will gladly ask for the favour of working on such a great site :-)

Right now I'm mostly interested in that hand tutorial with its pictures. I remember there were some plates you scanned in or something... I thought I printed them out but I must have lost the copies...

Oh, and do you have any specific tips for drawing hands *quickly* and in a kind of acceptable way? As I said, right now I'm not looking into ways to "build" a hand and spend five minutes drawing it, but in some sort of quick method that would only take me ten seconds or so to apply and would give a hand that at least doesn't look TOTALLY wrong...

Thanks for any help you can provide. :-) And good luck with the girl ;-)

Daniel

[Fred Flick Stone]

Sushi-unfortunately, there is no quick way to learn hands. But there are some cheats to help.

First, remember the action of the hand. Do not think individual flanges to begin with, think, what is the hand doing...Get that motion correct first.

Then, you will get involved in breaking the form down into its smaller components.

One thing to keep in mind is grouping of the fingers. It is attractive, and reads much better visually in terms of art peices that you do this. This is an animators trick, that was borrowed in Comics, and has been used for hundreds of years in fine art. Everyon borrows from everyone else anyway...

So, grouping means a three to one ratio, or pointer finger separate from the other three fingers of the hand, aside from the thumb. Or, separate the index and pinky, and group the two middle fingers together. A comic artist named bart sears did this trick, a bit too much. You could find one of those hands on every single page he illustrated, that is too redundant...

3. Keep the knuckles simple, bend them at the major junctures, don't worry about the small transitions. So, bend the finger where it attaches to the body of the hand, and bend the middle knuckle of the hand. But be cautious of over accenting the smaller knuckle separating the tip of the finger from the rest of the finger. Over do this joint, and the hands turn to broken mush...

-THe fingers are the same lenght as the big mass of the hand.

-The thumb is separate in terms of mass fromthe bulk of the hand, it attaches after the big mass has been found.
-the hand is the same length as the face,from forehead to chin...so draw the hands a bit bigger than you think you would be drawing them. Women, have smaller more delicately drawn hands, with tapered fingers.

A mans fingers are blocky, bulky, and sqaurish.

I will try to provide some visuals, but that wont be till later...

Hope this helps you a bit...

[MonkeyBoy]

All sound advice.

Only thing I would add, is to increase the scale on the hand untill it apears enviromental or geographic. This forces you to see the hand as it's geometric componants/masses. Once the hand is rendered thus, you can continue to develope it from a gross geometric depiction to a sublte economy of line. Lucky (read skilled) are those who have the ability to see grace outright.

Just my thoughts...



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MonekyBoy

(my muse is back)

[ozenzo]

hey did everyone forget about anticz?
check it out:

http://www.anticz.com/

and this to be more specific:

http://www.anticz.com/drawing1.htm

and:
http://www.anticz.com/heads.htm

[edible snowman]

fred just posted the eye, nose, and mouth tutorials in another thread i just started, if anyone was looking for those. he's so generous:-)

[SushiMaster]

Thanks for the tips, and the links to the tutorials!

Daniel