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surferboi
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2000 9:47 pm     Reply with quote

i need some help on a way to create a fire look, doesnt have to look photorealistic just beliveable in painting style. could someone help please. theres gotta be methods for makin fire in ps without filters right?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2000 9:53 pm     Reply with quote
I think it looks a lot like fire. It looks like fire hair. If you turn this upside down it almost looks like real flaims going up,

I think this is a great attempt at painting fire. Are you painting with acrylics or what?

Good work!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2000 10:33 pm     Reply with quote
i used photoshop... im tryin to get some hair i like for this girl im drawing http://rival.noir.org/window6.jpg the fire hair doesnt look good on her, some reason i got the idea it might look cool. but basically im having a hard time doin hair
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2000 12:52 am     Reply with quote
I think you've got the right idea there surferboi. It's main problems are the downward direction, and the setting. Fire generally lightens what is behind it, so would never look this visible or dark on a white background. I think it would probably look quite good in a black or dark scene.

Please excuse the incredibly crap brushwork, but I've tried to quickly put the fire together with your figure. I darkened off the background to help make the fire seem luminous, and quickly splashed some firelight over her features. You'll also notice I gave the fire a warm halo against the the dark BG to try and help the effect a little.



The fire should also be travelling up rather than down, but I didn't mess with that part as flames leaping off her head would totally change the feel.

I hope this helps somewhat, I've just tried to show how I would approach the same problem.

If you decide to do realistic hair instead, get a fashion magazine or two and find a reference for how light falls on hair.

Good luck Surferboi, and nice fire

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2000 4:31 pm     Reply with quote
RDGraffix: thanks for the rework on the image, i like ur approach a lot and im gonna give it a shot. I was workin on more realistic hair today but didnt pick up a magazine or anything i suppose i should.
heres the diffrent types of hair i came up with today.. nothin turned out amazing but i figure itll take me awhile of drawing hair before i make something i like. anywhere here's the smalls if anyone can comment or give some other approaches.

heres a link to the 1500xsomething image 150kb http://rival.noir.org/hair/hair1to5.jpg
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2000 12:14 am     Reply with quote
RDGraffix thanks for the help on the image, i think ur idea totally changes the look and feel of the image more towards what i was hoping to touch on. heres my progress on the image so far
Please if you or anyone else is reading this and can help me find a way to make her face look correct the shade of the face to the tones the rest of the skin. Also how to avoid getting the extreme blotchy look.

http://members.xoom.com/clanheat/flame4.jpg

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2000 6:12 pm     Reply with quote
Hey Superboi. Hrm. The left side of the face.. The lighting comin' from the flames is kinda screwed up. It is makin her head look fat to the left.. i think you should tyr and fix that up a bit. mbe try and re paint that part !



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2000 7:53 pm     Reply with quote
somewhat more updated
(help still needed)

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