Sijun Forums :: View topic - Need help on some coloring/detailing please...

Kastro · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2000 8:24 am

Hey guys,
I just registered on the board even though I've been a long time lurker. I got a wacom tablet a while ago but haven't had much time to produce anything. I get inspired by coming to this forum so I guess it's time to get back in shape.

I have an image here that I did in early 1999 (before i got the tablet, it's done with mouse) and obviously it's got some problems. this is basically my second try at an image after i read dhabih's tutorial.

So the problems are this:
1) As you can see, my shading/smodging (sp?) is way off. I haven't practiced much of the lighting techniques until this year when i got into a painting class at school. A little help on how to kind of blur the areas together would be greatly appreciated (meaning smooth the colors into each other so that you can't see i painted with one color here, another there, and the transition looks ugly)

2) as you can see on her body the details of the pencil are still visible (i think i did that on purpose so that maybe one day someone will be able to help me out like i'm asking of you now to do, but who knows that was almost two years ago). I want to somehow incorporate them into the painting but don't know what tool to use and how to smooth it out so it's not jaggedy, etc.

I'm not really looking for a full image critique because I can see what's wrong with it. what i really need is those two things above to help further "my education" in photoshop and tablet drawing.

I'm really sorry for the size of the image as well as the loading time (www.planetfortress.com is my only available provider at the moment), but here it is:

thanks in advance

SushiMaster · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2000 8:58 am

Too blurry, too colorful (prolly because of the dodge/burn). Desaturate a good bit, and then try using a hard edged paintbrush to go over the various areas and make them less blurry, and paint over the black lines.

Not bad though :-)

Daniel

Tinusch · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2000 9:24 am

I've seen this before...

Kastro · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2000 10:21 am

sushi: give me the definition of a hard edged brush

tinusch: unless you saw it at my site, you didn't see it anywhere else, and since it's only at my resume site where only about ten people are aware of the URL (until now if you checked the properties of that picture) then you haven't seen it anywhere else, I can provide the sketch for you if you think I took it from somewhere...

SushiMaster · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2000 10:48 am

A hard edged brush: A brush with hard edges

:-P It's a brush which doesn't "gradient off" on the edges. If you look at the brushes palette in photoshop, the first series of brushes are hard edged. The next series are soft edged. The first look like solid disks, the second look like a dot with a fading circular gradient around it...

Got it?

Daniel

Kastro · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2000 12:42 pm

ahh thanks, i'll give it a whirl.

ArMaDoN · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2000 12:47 pm

Hi.
How r u?
nice pic man i really love it...
let me try and give you some pointers...
the hair is nice ... you can round of the eyes i little bit more.
The pic is done very nicely make no mistake i love it ... i wish i can do better sorry if the comments that i made make no sense ehehhe but i try

Tinusch · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2000 2:29 pm

Oh no no no, I didn't mean to suggest that I didn't believe you drew it, it just looks REALLY familiar. I'm 100% certain I've seen the pic before. Have you gone by any other names on the forum?

Kastro · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2000 3:39 pm

no this is the only name i ever use, this picture was on gameart.com a long time ago because i wanted to test my theory of how bad can a picture be to still make it to the site and be posted, so thats about the only other place this was ever shown.

bell_maker · member Member # Joined: 19 Sep 2000 Posts: 81

cool pic

well.. the eyes are kinda big.. and she kinda looks .. mucular but i guess she's meant to.. her shoulders look a bit too big.. but overall nice pic ~

goodluck
-bellz

edible snowman · member Member # Joined: 12 Sep 2000 Posts: 998

yeah the pic is all right.. i agree with most of the comments stated above. the really weird thing is how similar my last name is to yours names that start with "przyby" cant be that common :-)

Tinusch · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2000 8:06 pm

Just a REALLY quick touch-up to give you an idea of refining with hard-edges brushes...

Chapel · member Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2000 Posts: 1930

man is she ugly.. looks like she caught on fire and someone put her out with a wet chain.

Isric · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2000 10:07 pm

I'm fine now, but you have no idea how long I laughed at that Chapel...

Chapel · member Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2000 Posts: 1930

hehe.. that is one of my favorite sayings.

Kastro · Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2000 7:18 am

tinusch: thats exactly what im looking for, thanks a ton. now if you can only tell me how you got that, kind of a "step by step" thing, i'd be very thankful!

chapel: yeah she is kinda ugly, everyone of my friends said she looks like a man, heh. maybe it is the muscles, but it was over a year ago so its no biggie, i'm kind of using it as a test picture.

Kastro · Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2000 7:19 am

by the way, your strokes almost look like waterpaints, they like fade into each other like waterpaints, i'd like to know how you achieve that effect as well.

thanks in advance

Tinusch · Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2000 11:22 pm

That's the difference between hard-edged brushes and soft-edges brushes. Soft-edged brushes are good at times, but for detailing, stick with the hard-edged brushes.

As to what I did to your pic... I used only hard-edged brushes. I don't know if you have a tablet or not, but if you do, check off the Opacity box. Set the opacity kind of low, too, around 20 - 50%. If you don't have a tablet, that's fine, just keep the opacity low. What I did was I just used a low-opacity brush to keep going over areas, scribbling in shadows and highlights.