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Author   Topic : "Which was better: Braveheart or The Patriot?"
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2000 10:34 pm     Reply with quote
Just saw The Patriot tonight (yeah, I know, I'm a little behind...) Anyway, loved the movie, and it reminded me a lot of Braveheart. So which did you guys like better?

Personally I lean towards Braveheart, even though The Patriot has stirred up a good deal of malice towards those red coated freaks.. I think Braveheart did a better job of snatching up your emotion and holding it throughout the movie. The Patriot got me at the beginning where the *ghost* is born, it had my blood boiling and I wanted to see some redcoats get whooped.. but nothing in the rest of the movie ever really eclipsed that awesome fight scene at the beginning.

Another movie along the same lines, and worth mentioning, is Last of the Mohicans. Even though it doesn't have the connection of Mel Gibson like Braveheart and The Patriot, it had amazing action, and the music fit it so perfectly. I probably liked Last of the Mohicans better than the Patriot as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2000 1:10 am     Reply with quote
The Patriot was a very big disappointment to me, I found it to be a lame american style version of Braveheart (the story was so similiar). Braveheart and Last of the Mohicans were far far better (especially Braveheart, that movie is simply a golden masterpiece).

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2000 4:20 pm     Reply with quote
1. Braveheart
2. Last of the Mohicans
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27736. Patriot

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2000 9:06 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2000 10:31 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 2:23 pm     Reply with quote
Braveheart. Period.

Patriot and Gladiator were decent, but not quite on the same level.

for war movies, i still prefer The Thin Red Line and Schindler's List (Private Ryan sucked, by the way). those two, along with Braveheart, are my Top 3 movies from the 90s.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 2:29 pm     Reply with quote
In my opinion Braveheart wasn't that good,I prefered Gladiator. I haven't seen Patriot yet, but I'm not interested.
The thin red line was good, but the tape was in a bad state and I couldn't hear the last speech when Clooney talks. Damn =/
I think that Schindler's list was simple great. I loved the light tones in the b&w format. Wonderful.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 2:44 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 2:55 pm     Reply with quote
I still have to watch it, but what I've heard is quite good (really good, in fact).
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 4:01 pm     Reply with quote
Braveheart was a good film, although some scenes were laughable, like the end scene where the scots run towards the camera - if you look closely you can see all of their rubber weaponary wobbling and one of the earlier battle scenes where a white ford van drives past the thundering californian/ausie /scot type. It was a good film though and only one battle in the otherwise dodgy Gladiator was comparable. NICE AND BLOODY - WHOOHA WHOOHAHAHA WHOOHA HA HA HA HA!!!! - excuse me.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 4:39 pm     Reply with quote
Robocop 2!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 5:00 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 9:51 pm     Reply with quote
patriot was like a little shorter version of braveheart in a different era with gibson revenging his kids instead of his women.......BRAVEHEART is alot better--also cooler fighting without guns.!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 9:52 pm     Reply with quote
patriot was ok but it was a little shorter version of braveheart in a different era with gibdson revenging his kids instead of his woman BRAVEHEART was better......also fighting with guns is not as cool as swords
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 12:04 am     Reply with quote
20 of The Best War movies, in no particular order.

1. Apocolypse Now!
2. Gettysburg
3. Das Boot, The unedited Directors cut
4. Stalingrad
5. Glory
6. Platoon
7. Full Metal Jacket- The 1st half of the movie
8. Tora! Tora! Tora!
9. Midway
10. Guns of Navarrone
11. Saving Private Ryan
12. Twelve o'clock High- Ohhh I loveeee this one
13. Glory
14. The Thin Red Line,
15. Catch-22. Who can leave this off a list?
16. Schindler's List
17. Dr. Strangelove
18. Lawrence of Arabia
19. The Deer Hunter
20. Wasn't Gone with the Wind set during the Civil War? I guess that would be # 20 if it was. And Star Wars. That was a war movie wasn't it. Or was it a western? I guess a case can be made either way. So we'll just call it a War Western.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 12:30 am     Reply with quote
the good, the bad and the ugly counts too in that case..



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 10:10 pm     Reply with quote
The patriot was crap....

such a hideous biased representation of the true facts about the english....

The American portrayal of the English was deeply warped in the movie...

and dont say otherwise
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 10:30 pm     Reply with quote
Road Warrior
Blade Runner
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 11:51 pm     Reply with quote
Actually, Blade Runner is a sci-fi Film Noir. Has all of the elements of that genre and almost none of the "war" films. ie hard-boiled detective, dame, voice over narration.

Road Warrior is an example of what happens when the band GWAR decides to make a movie... LOL
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2000 5:04 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 6:50 am     Reply with quote
There were certanly some great visuals in the Patriot.

All the rest, though, is American propaganda. Quite sickening, I have to add. War movies are just so cliche ...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 1:51 pm     Reply with quote
the patriot was kinda messed up in the simple fact that the british never, ever attacked civilians like that. not an ounce of truth to the story. absolutely ridiculous. but i guess it had a more cinematic effect...sold more tickets, that's what matters to the studios.

most realistic war movie ever...the thin red line. beautiful film. saving private ryan? funny movie. like 7 guys trying to save one private? seriously, people. spielberg is not so much a filmmaker as he is a pure entertainer (other than schindler's list...another awesome movie). think about it. indiana jones...jurassic park...private ryan...it's all b.s., but people love the stuff.

too bad money is more important than art these days (with the notable exception of the thin red line and schindler's list, plus a few others...).
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2000 12:58 am     Reply with quote
Well speaking of Patriot, I whipped up sometihng couple of days ago. Kinda ironic.



I know, I know it's in the wrong section of the board.



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2000 1:45 am     Reply with quote
Well those group of people were trotting through France, and if I am correct was not really inhabited that much by the Nazis, except a few notable areas. I thought the Thin Red Line was okay, but that "Why are we here" poem s*** started to get to me. And Schindler's List was a very good and very realistic film, Spielberg is losing his touch, because GUESS WHAT!? Jurrasic Park 3! Yes that's right folks he's losing his touch now.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2000 12:41 am     Reply with quote
Schindler's List is not a war movie, it's a Holocaust movie. There are definitely seperate categories.
It is "Ben Barker's Number One Movie of All Time" though. It think it's a technical masterpiece, and the story is terrific.
Yeah, Citizen Kane had better cinematography and editing, but the story was lame. OoOooOh! Rosebud is the SLED!!!! AaaAhah!.....pshh lame.

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moocow, you live in Boston. What about the Boston Masacre? I've never seen the Patriot, so maybe they totally exaggerated the situation of something. The colonists weren't innocent, but the brits gunned down a crowd that had only sticks and rocks.



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2000 11:05 pm     Reply with quote
Braveheart was better. Why? Because I don't like thinking about how many people died for this country so it could turn into the heaping pile of crap it is now.

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