[Kenzo Tanaka]

Keep the diversity of the single forum. It's great being able to go from a wacked out cool Synj animation, to a masterful Spooge painting to Ballistic render to a Wacomonkey concept, etc.

I have learned more in the last few months here due to such wide ranging topics being thrown out and its slightly chaotic nature.

This place just flat out rules....

[beekay-]

hell yeah throw a 3D forum on here... i am always dwelling on new thing to try in maya ...

bk

[Rinaldo]

Heh.. I know what you mean francis I'm on the Hash Animation master list (As you would be balistic, non?) and it is a friggin nightmare. Reminds me of all that boot camp kinda crap. Idea is well founded but people are kicked off for breathing.
What's cg-character mailing list btw, sounds interesting.

What people may not be thinking of is how big this forum may get. I mean I didn't join all that long ago, but when I did it was quite a bit slower in terms of post turnover. give another six of months, an increased user base (the mean increase amount per month will increase as well I would imagine) and it WILL become unmanagable.
I'm not saying to seperate 3D and 2D tho.

It would be good if when you posted you assigned a topic to your post. for example say I think it is a 3D and 2D thing that I want to put up for crit I just tick those boxes. Then when I am looking at posts I can say I only want to see stuff that has to do woth hardware technical stuff and 3D. I would not get any threads that people have marked for the 2D or Traditional topics (or whatever). I could still say that I want it to be listed under all topics and thus everyone will be able to see it, but it gives the extra control.
I doubt there is any system which would do this though.
Maybe it could work a bit diferently in that there are the diferent topics but you can still choose where your thread goes. for instance take the two topics you have now. random musings and this one. When I post I can choose one or the other, or both. the thread will be viewable in both topics and will be the same. By this I mean that if I posted a reply in the random musings topic it wopuld regester in the DAF as well. The same thread but it is acessable from both topics and is the same in both.

Oops, rambling again. Dunno if that made any sense or more importanty if it is a stupid idea or not. I don't think it would make any difference now that I look at it. But anyway.

[Transcendence]

I like Jeezus' idea about the icons to catagorize the posts...since you already have normal thread, a question, and exclamation mark...

[Danny]

Well said Francis..

I'm on CG-Char aswell.. Been so for about 2, 3 years now and I completely agree with your findings. They're too anal.. If you start splitting this forum up into multiple chambers you'll need to enforce stay-on-topic-rules. I think the forum would loose it's charm when derived from it's 'omni-nature'..
Let's just all think about this a little while longer rather than making rushed decisions. See what is the best solution for all concerned. Maybe in the mean time everybody could show a bit more attention to their posts and ask multiple questions in one post rather than have 2 or 3 seperate posts spread out over a day.
Just a thought..




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[osk]

YES!

Please add a 3d Forum, it is a great idea. I personally love both 2d and 3d, but there should be a dedicated forum for 3d, because a lot of the 3d stuff that gets posted gets lost in between all of the amaizing 2d art ..

[surferboi]

highend3d.com has a forum for the major 3d progs excluding max n lw, cg-char is popular as well. but personally i prefer your forum over both of them, because people actually contribute n offer more help.

[vebjorn]

Split it up, and I`m out off here. Kidding, but there`s tons of devoted 3d forums, go there if you want hardcore3d stuff. Having it like now keeps only some interesting 3d stuff for artist popping up now and then. Try taking a look at a 3d devoted forum and you`ll see 99% is "how do I do that with that program " etc...to much 3d tehchnical stuff like scripts etc and to little art. I think we all benefit much better the way it is now.

-Veb

[shahar2k]

As catagories go, 2D and 3D forums are not the greatest idea and here is my reason, whether its 2D or 3D the same principles apply to IMAGES composition color schemes, they all apply to art in general, 2D and 3D are just the tools used.
a better split, would probably be as Burn0ut suggested would be to split it into a posted art for comments/critiques and a forum for things like lessons and technique questions
this will split the threads from those that have something to show and those that are asking for help/want to help.... the only possible problem is that the lessons/tutorial forum will empty up because no one wants to offer any help

[shahar2k]

As catagories go, 2D and 3D forums are not the greatest idea and here is my reason, whether its 2D or 3D the same principles apply to IMAGES composition color schemes, they all apply to art in general, 2D and 3D are just the tools used.
a better split, would probably be as Burn0ut suggested would be to split it into a posted art for comments/critiques and a forum for things like lessons and technique questions
this will split the threads from those that have something to show and those that are asking for help/want to help.... the only possible problem is that the lessons/tutorial forum will empty up because no one wants to offer any help

[Muzman]

I'm registering my vote for the staus quo. The 'all in pool of activity' feel to this place can't be beat and should be preserved.
I would suggest a couple of small changes though; I like the 'more specific icons' idea a lot, also the ability to delete our own posts when lag and/or stupidity cause double ups (happens to all of us now and then). And lengthen (or give us the option to set) the number of threads seen on the front page; that way (cookies willing) we can have all the latest updates right in front of us and not have to flip through 2 or 3 pages of threads to see all updates. It seems a minor convenience but would eliminate the stress of being nocked off the front page after a few hours.

cheers

[Thorn]

I like the 'one big forum' format. To me, it gives off a feeling of community and something is happening!, which I don't find at other sites. I agree with Francis, too, that once everything is separated, (some)people become totally anal and pedantic about what's posted where. I find those sorts of comments irritating, not least because they sometimes kill off useful and/or funny threads.

(oops. Need to edit some demon typos >:])



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[Sergenth]

yesh, redo some of the UBB icons to show topics. 2D, 3D, Critique

Synj redid his message icons. You should too. Feel da presha!

Uh oh... what will happen to the archive though, when all the smiley icons are replaced by inappropriate icons?! Ack!

[WARiii]

In my opinon if you split it up then you would be slipting the people in here up and would make it more difficult to find some one, its great to keep it orginised but if u want everyones opinion on something like on a topic like this you would need to post it in each section and it would but much harder to keep up with the topic, it might be better to have it were when u send a massage u have to chose 3d / 2d / NA and then have it were u can search threw the type of message, (example: make a link "2d post only" or "3d post only" next to search and orginise it that way) thats my opinion

[eetu]

yea keep all the art in the same place.

a separate hardware forum might be a good idea though..

eetu.

[Manik Monkei]

Better cast my vote too. Keep the forum together. Splitting into separate "2d" and "3d" groups would not be a good move, IMO. I think it would create more confusion, and great artwork might be missed by people who choose not to visit one forum or the other.

yeah

[AprilYSH]

i liked iska's suggestion. i say stick with one "digital art" forum but people have to use better subject lines. maybe these subject keys could be pasted along the top of the forum.

as for dropping into the page2 void.. that's just "surivival of the most interesting" in action and i like it.

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Originally posted by iska:

So.. few suggestions for subject headers:

3D: (3D related thread)
2D: (drawing & painting related thread)
WEB: (web related thread)
HW: (hardware related thread)
SW: (software related thread)
etc..

--iska

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edit: wow, there are a lot of australians here!

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[bangsheadonkeyboard]

I've been watching this forum for a long time. I'm amazed at all the great work that has been put up. But one thing that I notice is that some peoples topics don't get proper responses all the time. Not because no one wants to respond. It's because of the VAST amount of topics that go by in such a short period, usually they're messages get bumped off to the next page. (as someone else said on the first page of this topic)

I would vote FOR forum "splitting".

But i'm just the new guy with a @#$%ed up name =0)

[chalker]

I you split it , you can better split it in 2d and 3d, that way you can recognize people who are in the 2d and 3d world.
Don't split the forums in Gallery and General or something..

I asked you in another thread to do the 3d forum cause of too many posts every day, and I try to read them everyday.

I think people only interested in '2d' art can visit the '2d' art gallery, and people with both interests visit both the 2d/3d gallery... So you can target your '3d questions' like, texturing, modelling, splines, nurbs, lightning, etc.. to a specific group..

success....