[Jabberwocky]

Ok this might not mean anything to anyone, but I know you guys get pissed when it comes to people "borrowing" others art work and claim it as their own. Well I took a graphics/webpage design class two years ago. As a midfinal we had to make a computerized picture in Adobe photo. It was to show we knew how to run adobe. Well I made mine and the teacher put them all up on display. Ok fine... but two get stolen. The other one is found, but mine wasn't.
Today,two years later, I found my stolen picture. Someone in my Commerical art class has it. I've talked to my teacher, and she said all we can do is talk to him about where it came from...
What do I do? Should I get a laywer? It's not like I haven't had other pieces stolen... just I've never found them later. My teacher said to deal with it and going into the art field I should be happy someone stole my work that took me 3 months to do and that it's always going to happen. I know this, but that's when I get into the field. This is my art work not something I used for sell or as a graphic for anyone but my grade and myself. Any info would be really useful, please.

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[Plop]

I've never produced anything worth stealing... but i'd say move on and make more art. If they continue stealing it will eventually bite them on the ass much worse than a court case ever will.

[balistic]

I say take his ass down before he ends up being your boss someplace.



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Brian "balistic" Prince
3D Artist
Eggington Productions

[Rinaldo]

Don't you have the original file?
We do a lot of copyright stuff where I study. You have to be able to produce evidance that you did it. this can come in the form of developmental sketches, saved states. they have to be dated to be of real authority. You can also ask the person who has done the dirty deed to explain how they did it. If you can explain how it was created then you have a leverage. This is mostly to do with legal stuff that gets into the court room. Most people will break down and get very uncomfortable if you confront them. Where I study I think the person would get kicked out. it is very bad practice to do this especialy if you are going into comercial art. your client can get a huge lawsute plopped on their lap if you copy something. they will likely do the same to you, and have a very good chance of ruining your life financialy. Places of study should not want this to be on their record. "oh the person came from so and so....well they rip stuff off.....tell 'em thanks but we don't think they're right for the position"
I doin't really know what you should do about it. I mean I would have thought that something WOULD have been done about it.
I mean when it comes down to it, you are not any worse at art because of it. But it compremises your ability to put it in your portfolio. if a prospective client/employer sees two identical pics then they are going to get touchy.
What your teacher said is total BS, logicaly, moraly and legaly. period.
Kick up a fuss. expose the whole thing as best you can. you've got nothing to lose really. tell EVERYONE. reputation is everthing in that busness. "you are only as good as your last job" is something I hear a lot. I think you will find that no one will deal with someone they know to be blatently in infringment of copyright.
First off you have the legal upper hand. if that doesn't work then the least you can do is give the person shit (but I'm a bit confrontational so don't take me on face value)

Interlectual property rights are big. people spend a lot of money and effort protecting their symbols. Childcare places have been taken on by Disney for painting mickey mouse on their walls with out paying (so I was told at least ) you can be paying back money until your 101 for swiping even ideas off people. to take the whole friggin image is asking for it.
Don't you have some sort of class on this subject?

Anyway hope it goes your way (which it should have already)
Anymore Qs just yell. I get this stuff jammed my throat every day.

[LethargicBoy]

*leaps to a heroic pose*

IS THERE NO JUSTICE IN THIS WORLD!?
VENGENCE IS THE ONLY OPTION!
COME MY BROTHERS! TO THE ARTMOBILE!

*don't take my word for it, i'm just insane and overdramatic*

[ceenda]

Jabberwocky: Lets spell out the facts as they are being presented.

A) You did a great piece of work.

B) Some guy nicked your work because he couldn't do a half-ass effort by himself.

I would be really angry if it happened to me, but, at the end of the day it's like cheating in Math class, he'll come unstuck, not you.

I would seriously advice you not to go for legal action over this. As you may have been told in martial arts classes, the first step in resolving a conflict is to avoid it in the first place.

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Quote:

"Don't give in to hate." - Obi Wan Kenobi

[This message has been edited by ceenda (edited August 25, 2000).]

[Visigoth]

I say you fucking kill his lame ass, and make him an example.

</sarcasm mixed with rage>

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Your car is a fiberglass penis extension.

[MaLoRuM]

Go Postal...Whoop his ass... that'll teach him a Lesson... that Punk B*tch...

infact follow my "art of the B*tch Slap" that'll show you how its done

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[Trance-R]

Sorry to hear that...
You could protect your artwork by mailing the art work to yourself(remember to address the mail to your name). Let the mailman give you big and nice time stamp on the envelope, don't open it. Keep it in a safe place and when the time comes, present it to the court.
This provides evidence of when you completed the artwork and that you are the owner! Think about it! =)


[This message has been edited by Trance-R (edited August 25, 2000).]

[dr . bang]

Don't worry Jab, you'll go father in life than that fucker. I my self hate thief too, but sometimes i have to ignore them cause thats life, the good guy will not always win.

[Spitfire]

Feed him to the gerbils.

*shivers*

*mutters some more about gerbils*

[samdragon]

I can sympathize with you, but please don't start suing people. If you're still in school, this type of crap happens all the time.
I've had complete worthless lumps of shit try to sue me because i didn't put their names in the credits of an animation we did. Of course the fact that this person dropped off the team and didn't do any work was a large reason his name wasn't in the credits. Just because you sit next to someone who busts his ass on a project, doesn't mean you have the right to take credit for it.
Anyway...
I wouldn't linger about that Photoshop image, if you did it then, you could probably do a much better one now. This person that stole your stuff will probably never do anything in the art field. In most cases, the people that hire you will know if you are capable of producing the work that you show them. So don't worry about it, get on with your life, it's been how many years? 2? Sheesh, do something that will blow that last image out the water and rub in "assholes" face.

[AliasMoze]

Jabberwocky, unless you can absolutely prove you did the art, then you have nothing.

Second, depending on where you go to school, it's possible that the school owns the art and not you.

Third, who cares? Write it off.

[brummitt]

just some future advise...

Mark all your work with a digital signature file.. i do with all my artwork...

it has my signature on it, and my URL, and it lays over the image a little so people cant steal it without having my sig on it.

but if he is steal artwork, when it comes to making something HIMSELF, for a client, then he'll be REALLY screwed...

Mat...

[sin]

Try having someone steal your photos and claim to be you... it isn't fun.
I think it's horrible that your teacher thinks stuff like that is expected. It's the worst form of flattery I can think of.
I personally would approach the guy and make sure everyone knew what he did.
Humiliation can be good.
Digital signatures are a good idea too.

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[Jabberwocky]

Well I did it in High school not a college class, and i would like it back because I like having a record of all my works so when i think I really suck I can look at my older work and see how far I've really come.
I had my sig on it,it was on the edge but for some odd reson oh it's been cut off... hum go figure. I have 3 classmates that can say it's mine and I have the teacher of the class say it's mine.
My teacher said she's going to find out where he got it and ask him some info about it.

Now this won't efect my chances in college or in a career in any way... Even if it was sold or what not? Because I have an few art scholarships I'm getting for college, and I don't feel the need to have some fuck nut screw up over 16 years of hard work for me. If he does can I sue then? Well I'm sure he'll try to come out clean cause he'll have no idea how the picture was done... hell it has my hand on it as one of the graphic pieces. Oh well. I just hope he won't steal one of my English Essays.

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