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Joachim
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 8:50 am     Reply with quote


I remember when I first found this forum, there was a thread were people posted their figure drawings (something I really liked). Finally me and Micke has started going to figure drawing again, after about half a year with exscuses for not going,...I hate myself for that.
So, this is some of those I've made the last week. I'm really rusty, so I hope that can motivate someone else to post theirs as well
And also, I don't know much of the rules or ways to use your pencil to shade quickly, the way I've seen Fred and spooge do it, so if someone have some guidance as well, that would be really nice

Oh, btw, these drawings are from 1 minute to max 3. there's 3 different models posing. I'll post new ones every week, if someone else is interessted in to be a part of this.





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Chapel
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 8:55 am     Reply with quote
Thats cool Joachim. I didn't think that you two would still be taking classes. I might see if I can take one here. Course I'd just do it in hopes of a hottie doing the posing.. but then from your pictures it looks like Aunt Bee likes to pose too.

I've been sketching stick figures for poses constantly. I was going to start figure sketching a little later this week. Let me know if you figure out the shading technique. I usually just use one pencil.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 8:56 am     Reply with quote
ewww, fat naked women. not the best subject matter, but you did a good job of drawing them in different positions.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 9:01 am     Reply with quote
They're very nice Joachim. As is your idea.
I must do some more life drawing(haven't done any for ages). when I do I'll put them up.

You and Micke have really inspired me to develop my drafting/drwing skills more.
Sigh.......
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 9:04 am     Reply with quote
Looks nice Joa... nice simple shapes, good lines!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 9:28 am     Reply with quote
Nice, Joachim! very spare with the linework, I like that. Your drawing seems very confident to me, proportions and foreshortening good too. You also have a very good sense of weight (for example the one with hands on hips on right hand side) she really seems liek she's carrying her weight naturally.

I just started taking an anatomy drawing class to help my figure work (which isn't quite up to my technical drawing, to say the least!) I'll try to post some of those when I get some done.

How big are these drawings btw?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 9:51 am     Reply with quote
Awesome drawings! The proportions are dead on, and you didn't even hide the hands and feet! I can tell you've been doing this for a while. Figure drawing is such an important foundation to everything else you do, it's too bad that it's not emphasized more.

As far as quick shading goes... whittle your pencil down with a razor blade so that about a quarter inch of lead is showing and then sand it down nice and smooth so that it looks like a really sharp bullet. Then use the point to draw and the side to shade.

If you ever get a chance, get your hands on any book by Andrew Loomis. Most of them are out of print, but he is the master and teaches a really good quick shading technique.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 10:24 am     Reply with quote
That reminds me, J, I have to post hose Disney sketches!

Drawings are looking very nice!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 10:26 am     Reply with quote
The figures look really nice Joachim, very smooth fluid lines and the shading is great.
Excellent work.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 10:55 am     Reply with quote
good stuff joachim!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 12:09 pm     Reply with quote
Quick shading-
Use the side of your pencil, or use a graphite stick. Or use a conte crayon. Or charcoal.

I like your drawings, you and micke have a good sense of line. One thing to try is to draw without using lines- just draw the masses and values rather than the contours. This may help you develop the quick shading too.

psi burn - fat naked women is a great thing to draw. The more body types you draw the better. Not all human beings are busty, alluring, anime babes.

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Fred Flick Stone
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 12:11 pm     Reply with quote
I love these drawings Joachim. These are the kind of gestures I want to do more of. I still have too much associates/fixler in me. I love the simplicity and gestural quality of the lines...maybe I will try and find some scans of my quick sketches and you can see the delicate beauty of these vs. the harsh mechanical nature of our technique. I hope you are doing these every day...great work...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 12:47 pm     Reply with quote


Here is a page of quick sketches. Each of these pages is 18 x 24, but you can see how much more mechanical these look. I like your style much more...way more expressive and organic...keep up the great work both you Joachim and Micke...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 1:50 pm     Reply with quote
Wow, great work Joachim, Micke and Fred.

Joachim, please keep posting these each week!
Your lines express so much feeling and weight. If that makes sense...

This stuff helps keeps renewing my devotion to draw for hours each night.

Thanks!

Fred: Could you scan some close ups of those 1-5 min figure drawings?
I would really love to see how few lines can make such wonderful form on paper.



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 2:55 pm     Reply with quote




Farwalker, here you go. The photos aren't all that great, but you can still see them a bit...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 2:55 pm     Reply with quote
Great stuff, guys Please keep posting your life drawings! Thanks Joachim!



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 3:39 pm     Reply with quote
Damn Fred, how did you keep from drooling when drawing that woman? I seriously think I would have had a ceisure or something of the sort. WOW. Oh, very very very nice sketches, awesome stuff -- 5 minutes, uh? =)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 3:43 pm     Reply with quote
Thatsvery helpful Fred,Mikael,Jaochim...


Fred... What type of pencils are you using for those sketches... 4b? or so.. it doesn't really look like a progresso..
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 3:48 pm     Reply with quote
Freddio-they are Ritmo charcoal pencils on smooth newsprint...super fun medium and fun surface to work on...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 4:17 pm     Reply with quote
Man, these life drawing studies are very good...

Fred, love the line weights. Very powerful. I really really really need to work on my figures. I tried to take some classes at associates, but the semester has already started. I'll wait for the fall season....sux.

In the mean time, i'll learn from these nice samples and practice more..

you guys make it look so easy...damn...

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 4:26 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks so much for taking the time to do this Fred!

The figures seem to burst from the pages with life. The soft shadows in and around the figure work so well also.
I will save these and study them...

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 10:01 pm     Reply with quote
These are really nice. Thanks guys.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 11:09 pm     Reply with quote
Yeah looking very nice, Joachim My drawings got screwed up, when trying to
scan mine from the same session(shitty scanner).Here's some(old) hand-excercises instead:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 11:16 pm     Reply with quote
micke and Jaochim: When you sketch do you use short little "jabs" or long smooth strokes? I just can't get over how clean your images are.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 11:53 pm     Reply with quote
in my experience (watching friends, schoolmates, teachers and coworkers) one of the biggest positive steps a person makes with drawing is when they stop using little "jabs" (as you put it) and start working in more expressive lines. it's much easier to let the elbow/shoulder do some of the work, instead of using only the wrist. not only does it give a nicer result, but it shows that the artist trusts his hand-eye co-ordination.

course this isn't true for everyone.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2000 11:55 pm     Reply with quote
Hey Fred, when is the tutorial on figure drawing coming out? :-) (or perhaps it's already out and I didn't hear about it)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2000 12:33 am     Reply with quote
AAAH! Fred, your technique is awesome. How do you work with the pencil? All of these are great! I would love to draw 5 minute-poses more. We mostly only do 1-3, and i only get to finish the linework . If you have more, just post them.It's very inspiring
and gives me an urge to try out new techniques.
Very good work!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2000 12:52 am     Reply with quote


Wow, so many guys replied allready. I'm happy I brought up this subject again

Thanks for nice feedback as well. I'm happy so many guys found some good aspects in my figure drawings. Since we have no teacher or anything, but do this on our own, I have no clue if I do things right or wrong, except for common sense ofcourse .

WacomM: Thx. They were made on A4 paper size. If that says anything on american ?!? Standard size I guess.

Fat Assasin: Thx for the compliments. I haven't seen you post here before, so welcome to the forum I went to your site as well, you have some really nice stuff there. Btw, thx for the pencil technique hint, I get it now...I will try that next time.

spooge: Yes, post those sketches !! The more the better. While you are at it, why not post some of your own figure drawings as well...hint hint What I've seen of those you have on youre page, are amazing.

Fred, my god, those are great !!! I see now that I have soooo much to learn, especially with pencil technique. Post more !
Btw, do you do figure drawing every week ?

Hope this thread will stay alive and more people will post their stuff. I will post new ones next week. And, hopefully I've managed to do some more experimenting with technique and shading then Just too bad those stupid models never stand for more than 3 min, it should be like 2 five mins or one 10 min in the end -Oh well, I guess I just have to draw faster.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2000 1:35 pm     Reply with quote
heres some i dun did yesterday but there not from life or anything but they are figures HEHE :P

okay tell me what i shoudl work on Pretty please
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2000 1:37 pm     Reply with quote
oops

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