[Isric]

Which do you guys think is more important

1) Attention to detail, and i mean rigerous attention to detail

or

2) Form, value, and quality, but it looks like it took 2 hours to whip up?


by nature i find that I CANNOT make myself get to "clean" with my images, and must leave them in their raw state.
Whadaya think?

[Incarnatation]

i dont really think there is a right or a wrong.

Both have equal value of capturing mood and atmosphere. However the very nature of digital art has become a very lazy art form, the majority of people spend very little time on there work and avoid working on huge projects or big challenges. I dont feel digital artists challenge themselves enough, and tend to formulate and copy other people a lot! I feel these people also use the concept of speed drawin etc as an excuse not to concentrate on your work and spend a long time over one particular piece.

[Rinaldo]

I think they may be two sides to the same coin. Detail just comes last, and sometimes you don't need it at all. rigerous attention to detail without Form, value, and quality is like air conditioning in Antarctica....... A fu@#!ng waste of time.

What do you mean by "clean" btw


(subjective oppinion(s) as always)

[Nightime]

...there has to be a harmonious balance. if you draw from life, capture the important information. Furthermore, give viewers a reason why they should look at your painting, than rather look at the subject in real life.

As for rigorous detail, you can be very literal, or you can take a photograph. realism is obviously a great challenge (hell, artists for centuries have struggled in seizing what they truly see), but it is a greater feat to entice the other five senses in the viewer.

For instance, what does color smell like?

JJ / Nightime



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[Isric]

by cleaen i mean that you touch up the image, almost so that you cannot tell it was a pen tablet (such as the wonderful matte work of Mr. Mullins)

[mOO]

incarnatation it sounds like you are trying to piss off a lot of people heh but i have to agree with rinaldo he said it beautifully

[Incarnatation]

nah im not trying to offend anyone, im just brutaly honest, i might be wrong, its just an opinion :P

[spooge demon]

It is a personal preference yah? To me the challenge is to keep the freshness and strength in a "finished" pic. Another cool trick is to get scared, incompetent art directors to accept this. Almost impossible, unless you have the credibility, then they can blame it on you.

But the basics are more important, and take much longer to master. House on crap smells like crap.

[black_fish]

Hmm, very interesting thread...

I think that you don't really have to worry about the level of 'finition' in a picture as long as it looks good. Let me be brutally honest here but I think that you can do whatever you want (as long as it's not ripping off other people work) with whatever technique you choose as long as the RESULT IS GOOD. People who look at your pic don't care about the amount of time you spent on it, they don't care if you're the king of Photoshop, they don't care if you choosed a very difficult art technique, they don't care if you are a digital virtuoso: what they want is a GOOD PIC, period. I used to be totally blind to this fact and to spend to much time caring about the way I was doing it rather than caring about what it will look like in the end. I was young and stupid, yadda yadda...
Why do you think Mr Craig Mullins here is a good artist? Do you think it's because he knows PS inside out and has little tricks? No. He's good because he's trying to make his pictures look good, regardless of the specific technique he uses or the level of finition he has. I don't care that much for 'how does Spooge do it', I just want to SEE the damn picture, I want the picture to tell me a story, to show me something, to make me dream!
Art is freedom. If you start to think that you have to follow rigid rules you're not an artist in my view. Put whatever detail you want, spend 10 minutes or 10 months on a picture, do what it takes to GIVE ME WHAT I CRAVE: SEEING THE PICTURE!
(What's up with all those caps? I feel like screaming today

To finish my useless little speech: I don't understand why everybody's here is trying to go for photorealism? I mean, I understand that for Spooge and Loki, but for all the others... What about graphic style people? Photorealism is boring. If you want realism do photos, instead of painting them. And for your paintings give me some style, like this new guy from Sweden (I think it's Carrier). Digital Art is not only about matte paintings, you know.
Gimme style!

Of course this is only what I think and I am probably wrong. Have a nice day.



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[mOO]

you see the whole argument had nothing to do with technique if you are going to have detail you still need good form and value no matter what technique you use otherwise it will just be a detailed piece of shit enjoy!