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spooge demon
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 1:08 am     Reply with quote
I am back from hawaii and then vacation, if that makes any sense.

I saw a few threads ago ceenda was interested in 20000 leagues under the sea and visualizing things. I like the book, and seeing that sub in the movie with the portals lit under the water, too cool. So I thought I would try a nemo, but it is not very successful. I had in mind a man that was not a traditional capn, or a traditional boot chin thyroid freak, but someone who could singlehandedly fight a squid and invent nuclear propulsion. hmmm...

Sometimes creativity is not so much pulling someting out of a vacuum, but putting something down and it suggest where to go next. It helps to stay loose in the beginning. If sit down to draw and arm, you are already limiting yourself. Scribble, through some ink on it, bury it in the backyard. Resist the urge to draw a thing. When you have interesting shapes down, look a it, flip it rotate it, whatever, maybe there is something there. Eventually something will emerge, but you have to have the patience to let it. Don't render until much later.

This is only one way to go about it. I like to be creative in my process, I find that leads me to places I would have never been to otherwise. Sitting down with a 6h pencil and rubbing your temples doesn't work more than a few times.

When visualizing, or in any creative thing, you have time up front to be creative. So let anything fly, don't judge, just get it out. Then when the buzzer goes off, weed out and judge.

Heres mr nemo, about to throw you out the airlock.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 1:15 am     Reply with quote
Great work man, really love the lighting on his face. Only thing i don't get : I assume he doesn't have a razor since he's like on the bottom of the ocean and has a beard like mozes and shit. But how did he shave his hair??

C'mon, give the guy a haircut like rod steward or something!!

Anywayz, good shit man.

Jeff
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 1:56 am     Reply with quote
You can easily convert that haircut into a ponytail, aye? I'm liking that damn lighting too! Nice colour choices and so far compisition! Man go ahead and finish this bastard, it's looking damn good!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 3:28 am     Reply with quote
Wicked. Welcome back!
I love the rough detailing of the face.
I also like the warm colours against the cold

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 3:52 am     Reply with quote
Great picture spooge....I love those warm colors and sweaty face. It really gives that old pirate-movie look.
Btw, welcome back. Kinda missed you The forum is not the same without you.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 5:09 am     Reply with quote
He-Hey!

That picture rocks! Thanks for re-inspiring me, and as you say, it is a fantastic book.

Here is one of my rough sketches of Nemo (not as good as yours though). I am trying to aim for a mix between James Mason and Sean Connery from The Hunt for Red October.



Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 5:49 am     Reply with quote
wb spooge

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 9:11 am     Reply with quote
Whoops!

when linking to a picture it helps if the picture is there in the first place... doh!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 9:40 am     Reply with quote
I hate how even your sketchy stuff looks better than anything I've ever done or even dreamed of.

But on a lighter note, damn good job Spooge. Somethin for me to work towards, I guess, heh.




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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 9:45 am     Reply with quote
Thats a mighty fine pic there spooge.
Your work allways gets me all jumpy and inspired.

By the way, if you can be bothered answering a boring techy question: I was wondering how much, if at all, you used masks in PS.
Always wanted to know


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 1:22 pm     Reply with quote
Yea, I like this one a whole bunch You really have added a lot of character to him. Great stuff and welcome back!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 1:31 pm     Reply with quote
Welcome back Spooge! Wow, youre work never ceases to amaze me, I really love the colours
and the detail on the face is awesome. Great having you back.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 2:16 pm     Reply with quote
Very beautiful face. The colors remind me of some work I just saw by an illustrator named Gregory Manchess.
The face makes me think of Repin, or of Joseph Clemens Cole colored. The tip of the nose is crooked, but I am assuming this is because of the spontaneousness of the image.
Gawd I love those colors. Glad to know you didn't find Greg Brady's Kahuna cave, or get sucked out to see by the Perfect Storm Brah...6 weeks in Hawaii eh? I need a vacation like that, I think inspiration can be found in an outing like that.
I couldn't agree with you more with what you have said about creativity. I try all the time to tell my students to get over the everything right the first time, or everything I draw has to be perfect syndrome. First, this is incredibly limiting. Second, it doesn't allow one to find anything new, or something fresh that no one else has seen before, and you never know, one of your happy accidents may lead the image in a stronger, more developed direction.
There seems to be a big misunderstanding that all great artists do all great art, all the time. Most great artists have had there collections weeded out, with the bad stuff destroyed. All we get to see are the best of what they did, or what they sold. When we, the inexperienced look through a book of someones art, we assume that this is how everything they dsid came out. As a result, people tend to shy away from scribbling, doodling, letting the hand go. I saw some original Michelangelo pages out of one of his sketch books, and wow, they were amazing. From tight finished works, to neurotic scribbles that actually inspire idea. This stuff is so important for the "PRO" to do to find new thoughts and ideas, but we are abscent of this information, or have always been told to stop scribbling, and make something that looks good.
Tooting the horn, away I go now, and since I have just now gotten moved in, expect to see the long overdue part two to both tutorials soon...peace

Glad your back Craig...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 2:38 pm     Reply with quote
I second that - bet you're full of new stuff to show us!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 2:43 pm     Reply with quote
Ehh, no pressure tho...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 4:18 pm     Reply with quote
If you aren't gonna apply the pressure Francis, then I will!

*me attaches large vice-grip device to Craig's head* ... gotta get that creativity out! (and steal it for myself :P)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 4:39 pm     Reply with quote
hey, hows this for an idea. post your worst pics, scribbles, etc in a new thread or something, make others feel better. it'd be interesting to see, and i think it might even be insightful.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 4:58 pm     Reply with quote
The #1 thing people say when I show them Craig Mullins's art: "Man, that's f'd up."

Great image, as usual, Spooge.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 5:02 pm     Reply with quote
Did you have Nicolai Tesla in mind for the genius side of nemo? I was just looking at a Tesla book of mine, and I swear there is a hint of him in this image...more more more
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 6:20 pm     Reply with quote
Great lighting, nice perspective...
Welcome back
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 7:52 pm     Reply with quote
Spooge you are the king don man, fkk me thats brilliant. Also I am suprised at the ammount of solid black you put into the image, I read in your ga spotlight you didn't usually like doing that but it works well. Kinda gives it a more comical style to it. I love it, keep doing your thang!

oh yeah welcome back =)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 8:31 pm     Reply with quote
I umm... don't really like it.
Sorry.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 9:30 pm     Reply with quote
If you watch Pavorotti sing Nessum Dorma in the 3 Tenor's concert(I forget if it's the Caracalla or LA one), right at the end he has a similar expression on for a split second. Very nice, I still don't know how you punks can paint in Photoshop, it just doesn't make sense. ^_^

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 10:56 pm     Reply with quote
beautiful work, guy. also, thank you for your insight, it's refreshing to find a true artist once in a while

i will print out your post and keep in in my wallet.




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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 11:28 pm     Reply with quote
Cerebral reference, Fred. I'm just glad I know who Tesla is, so I don't feel like a moron. Alternating currents. Ha!

Spooge, did you happen to do any new stuff in Hawaii?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2000 1:41 am     Reply with quote
Hey everyone thanks for the welcome back! I am glad people seem to like this one. I have been very busy in Hawaii working on the Final Fantasy movie. Hawaii is supposed to be warm, relaxing and sunny? To me it was cold(air-conditioning), stressful, and dark (computer rooms). I went on vacation later. I won't have anything new to show until FF is released. These little sketches I do to keep my interest up is all that I can leak out.

There is a pretty big changeover here since I left. Many old faces gone but a lot of new ones.

Yes, I use masks all the time in PS. I don't think I did in this image, though.

Strange as it may seem, I did think about the radical difference in style between the beard (unkempt) and perfect short hair. Nemo is a contrast of rebel and perfect discipline. I could see him and his crew having both elements in aspects of dress and uniform. How�s that for a BS made up answer? I have to practice here before I try my skills with a real AD No, really, it was intentional.

I think the sweat and dirt is a bit of a stretch myself. A nuclear powered boat is not similar to a coal powered one in any way. That's license I guess.

Fred, could you explain those references to other illustrators a bit more. I have not heard of them. I know who Tesla is (the guy who invented squirrel flavored cheese), but not the others.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2000 3:11 am     Reply with quote
The mood, the lightning! Excellent!
and welcome back! My turn to go on vacation!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2000 3:32 am     Reply with quote
Wow Fred.. I really like what you said about not trying to get everything right the first time and how the work we see from the artists we admire is often a selection of the finest. I know I have a tendency to aim for perfectionism from the word go. Certainly can get in the way of creative exploration.. Well spoken and something to think about..

Welcome back Spooge! You certainly know how to make an entrance don't you? You've managed to put the entire forum in drool mode again..

Danny

ps. is that your cat I see shining through on Cap'n Nemo's jacket or did you use something else this time?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2000 5:26 am     Reply with quote
Very beautiful. I love the multi-layered textures and colors.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2000 7:02 am     Reply with quote
damn......thats good
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