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spooge demon member
Member # Joined: 15 Nov 1999 Posts: 1475 Location: Haiku, HI, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 1:08 am |
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I am back from hawaii and then vacation, if that makes any sense.
I saw a few threads ago ceenda was interested in 20000 leagues under the sea and visualizing things. I like the book, and seeing that sub in the movie with the portals lit under the water, too cool. So I thought I would try a nemo, but it is not very successful. I had in mind a man that was not a traditional capn, or a traditional boot chin thyroid freak, but someone who could singlehandedly fight a squid and invent nuclear propulsion. hmmm...
Sometimes creativity is not so much pulling someting out of a vacuum, but putting something down and it suggest where to go next. It helps to stay loose in the beginning. If sit down to draw and arm, you are already limiting yourself. Scribble, through some ink on it, bury it in the backyard. Resist the urge to draw a thing. When you have interesting shapes down, look a it, flip it rotate it, whatever, maybe there is something there. Eventually something will emerge, but you have to have the patience to let it. Don't render until much later.
This is only one way to go about it. I like to be creative in my process, I find that leads me to places I would have never been to otherwise. Sitting down with a 6h pencil and rubbing your temples doesn't work more than a few times.
When visualizing, or in any creative thing, you have time up front to be creative. So let anything fly, don't judge, just get it out. Then when the buzzer goes off, weed out and judge.
Heres mr nemo, about to throw you out the airlock.
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TweeK member
Member # Joined: 21 Nov 1999 Posts: 136 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 1:15 am |
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Great work man, really love the lighting on his face. Only thing i don't get : I assume he doesn't have a razor since he's like on the bottom of the ocean and has a beard like mozes and shit. But how did he shave his hair??
C'mon, give the guy a haircut like rod steward or something!!
Anywayz, good shit man.
Jeff |
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DeathbyDuplicity member
Member # Joined: 29 Jun 2000 Posts: 183
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 1:56 am |
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You can easily convert that haircut into a ponytail, aye? I'm liking that damn lighting too! Nice colour choices and so far compisition! Man go ahead and finish this bastard, it's looking damn good! |
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micke member
Member # Joined: 19 Jan 2000 Posts: 1666 Location: Oslo/Norway
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 3:28 am |
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Wicked. Welcome back!
I love the rough detailing of the face.
I also like the warm colours against the cold
-Micke
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Joachim member
Member # Joined: 18 Jan 2000 Posts: 1332 Location: Norway
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 3:52 am |
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Great picture spooge....I love those warm colors and sweaty face. It really gives that old pirate-movie look.
Btw, welcome back. Kinda missed you The forum is not the same without you.
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[This message has been edited by Joachim (edited July 11, 2000).] |
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ceenda member
Member # Joined: 27 Jun 2000 Posts: 2030
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 5:09 am |
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He-Hey!
That picture rocks! Thanks for re-inspiring me, and as you say, it is a fantastic book.
Here is one of my rough sketches of Nemo (not as good as yours though). I am trying to aim for a mix between James Mason and Sean Connery from The Hunt for Red October.
Thanks again.
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Nex member
Member # Joined: 25 Mar 2000 Posts: 2086 Location: Austria
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 5:49 am |
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wb spooge
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ceenda member
Member # Joined: 27 Jun 2000 Posts: 2030
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 9:11 am |
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Whoops!
when linking to a picture it helps if the picture is there in the first place... doh!
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aquamire member
Member # Joined: 25 Oct 1999 Posts: 466 Location: duluth, mn, usa
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 9:40 am |
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I hate how even your sketchy stuff looks better than anything I've ever done or even dreamed of.
But on a lighter note, damn good job Spooge. Somethin for me to work towards, I guess, heh.
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Rinaldo member
Member # Joined: 09 Jun 2000 Posts: 1367 Location: Adelaide, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 9:45 am |
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Thats a mighty fine pic there spooge.
Your work allways gets me all jumpy and inspired.
By the way, if you can be bothered answering a boring techy question: I was wondering how much, if at all, you used masks in PS.
Always wanted to know
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Gambit member
Member # Joined: 01 Jul 2000 Posts: 213 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 1:22 pm |
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Yea, I like this one a whole bunch You really have added a lot of character to him. Great stuff and welcome back!
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Kyri member
Member # Joined: 05 Mar 2000 Posts: 193 Location: London England
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 1:31 pm |
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Welcome back Spooge! Wow, youre work never ceases to amaze me, I really love the colours
and the detail on the face is awesome. Great having you back.
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Fred Flick Stone member
Member # Joined: 12 Apr 2000 Posts: 745 Location: San Diego, Ca, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 2:16 pm |
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Very beautiful face. The colors remind me of some work I just saw by an illustrator named Gregory Manchess.
The face makes me think of Repin, or of Joseph Clemens Cole colored. The tip of the nose is crooked, but I am assuming this is because of the spontaneousness of the image.
Gawd I love those colors. Glad to know you didn't find Greg Brady's Kahuna cave, or get sucked out to see by the Perfect Storm Brah...6 weeks in Hawaii eh? I need a vacation like that, I think inspiration can be found in an outing like that.
I couldn't agree with you more with what you have said about creativity. I try all the time to tell my students to get over the everything right the first time, or everything I draw has to be perfect syndrome. First, this is incredibly limiting. Second, it doesn't allow one to find anything new, or something fresh that no one else has seen before, and you never know, one of your happy accidents may lead the image in a stronger, more developed direction.
There seems to be a big misunderstanding that all great artists do all great art, all the time. Most great artists have had there collections weeded out, with the bad stuff destroyed. All we get to see are the best of what they did, or what they sold. When we, the inexperienced look through a book of someones art, we assume that this is how everything they dsid came out. As a result, people tend to shy away from scribbling, doodling, letting the hand go. I saw some original Michelangelo pages out of one of his sketch books, and wow, they were amazing. From tight finished works, to neurotic scribbles that actually inspire idea. This stuff is so important for the "PRO" to do to find new thoughts and ideas, but we are abscent of this information, or have always been told to stop scribbling, and make something that looks good.
Tooting the horn, away I go now, and since I have just now gotten moved in, expect to see the long overdue part two to both tutorials soon...peace
Glad your back Craig... |
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Francis member
Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2000 Posts: 1155 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 2:38 pm |
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I second that - bet you're full of new stuff to show us!
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Francis member
Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2000 Posts: 1155 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 2:43 pm |
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Ehh, no pressure tho...
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 4:18 pm |
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If you aren't gonna apply the pressure Francis, then I will!
*me attaches large vice-grip device to Craig's head* ... gotta get that creativity out! (and steal it for myself :P) |
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aquamire member
Member # Joined: 25 Oct 1999 Posts: 466 Location: duluth, mn, usa
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 4:39 pm |
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hey, hows this for an idea. post your worst pics, scribbles, etc in a new thread or something, make others feel better. it'd be interesting to see, and i think it might even be insightful.
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AliasMoze member
Member # Joined: 24 Apr 2000 Posts: 814 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 4:58 pm |
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The #1 thing people say when I show them Craig Mullins's art: "Man, that's f'd up."
Great image, as usual, Spooge.
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Fred Flick Stone member
Member # Joined: 12 Apr 2000 Posts: 745 Location: San Diego, Ca, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 5:02 pm |
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Did you have Nicolai Tesla in mind for the genius side of nemo? I was just looking at a Tesla book of mine, and I swear there is a hint of him in this image...more more more |
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Wildkat junior member
Member # Joined: 29 Nov 2001 Posts: 8 Location: us of a
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 6:20 pm |
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Great lighting, nice perspective...
Welcome back |
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Cos member
Member # Joined: 05 Mar 2000 Posts: 1332 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 7:52 pm |
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Spooge you are the king don man, fkk me thats brilliant. Also I am suprised at the ammount of solid black you put into the image, I read in your ga spotlight you didn't usually like doing that but it works well. Kinda gives it a more comical style to it. I love it, keep doing your thang!
oh yeah welcome back =) |
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amnesia member
Member # Joined: 09 Feb 2000 Posts: 152 Location: brisbane QLD Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 8:31 pm |
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I umm... don't really like it.
Sorry.
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Anthony member
Member # Joined: 13 Apr 2000 Posts: 1577 Location: Winter Park, FLA
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 9:30 pm |
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If you watch Pavorotti sing Nessum Dorma in the 3 Tenor's concert(I forget if it's the Caracalla or LA one), right at the end he has a similar expression on for a split second. Very nice, I still don't know how you punks can paint in Photoshop, it just doesn't make sense. ^_^
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nova member
Member # Joined: 23 Oct 1999 Posts: 751 Location: seattle, wa
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 10:56 pm |
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beautiful work, guy. also, thank you for your insight, it's refreshing to find a true artist once in a while
i will print out your post and keep in in my wallet.
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AliasMoze member
Member # Joined: 24 Apr 2000 Posts: 814 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2000 11:28 pm |
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Cerebral reference, Fred. I'm just glad I know who Tesla is, so I don't feel like a moron. Alternating currents. Ha!
Spooge, did you happen to do any new stuff in Hawaii?
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spooge demon member
Member # Joined: 15 Nov 1999 Posts: 1475 Location: Haiku, HI, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2000 1:41 am |
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Hey everyone thanks for the welcome back! I am glad people seem to like this one. I have been very busy in Hawaii working on the Final Fantasy movie. Hawaii is supposed to be warm, relaxing and sunny? To me it was cold(air-conditioning), stressful, and dark (computer rooms). I went on vacation later. I won't have anything new to show until FF is released. These little sketches I do to keep my interest up is all that I can leak out.
There is a pretty big changeover here since I left. Many old faces gone but a lot of new ones.
Yes, I use masks all the time in PS. I don't think I did in this image, though.
Strange as it may seem, I did think about the radical difference in style between the beard (unkempt) and perfect short hair. Nemo is a contrast of rebel and perfect discipline. I could see him and his crew having both elements in aspects of dress and uniform. How�s that for a BS made up answer? I have to practice here before I try my skills with a real AD No, really, it was intentional.
I think the sweat and dirt is a bit of a stretch myself. A nuclear powered boat is not similar to a coal powered one in any way. That's license I guess.
Fred, could you explain those references to other illustrators a bit more. I have not heard of them. I know who Tesla is (the guy who invented squirrel flavored cheese), but not the others.
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BooMSticK member
Member # Joined: 13 Jan 2000 Posts: 927 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2000 3:11 am |
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The mood, the lightning! Excellent!
and welcome back! My turn to go on vacation!
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Danny member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2000 Posts: 386 Location: Alcyone, Pleiadians
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2000 3:32 am |
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Wow Fred.. I really like what you said about not trying to get everything right the first time and how the work we see from the artists we admire is often a selection of the finest. I know I have a tendency to aim for perfectionism from the word go. Certainly can get in the way of creative exploration.. Well spoken and something to think about..
Welcome back Spooge! You certainly know how to make an entrance don't you? You've managed to put the entire forum in drool mode again..
Danny
ps. is that your cat I see shining through on Cap'n Nemo's jacket or did you use something else this time?
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Sedone member
Member # Joined: 11 May 2000 Posts: 455 Location: United States
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2000 5:26 am |
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Very beautiful. I love the multi-layered textures and colors.
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Member # Joined: 28 Apr 2000 Posts: 905 Location: Jersey City, NJ, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2000 7:02 am |
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damn......thats good |
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